Saturdays Pre Match Entertainment. ( The McLeish Out Demo).

[Zhong Yi]

McLeish is a top bloke. He's got great character, thick skin and a will to win. But the simple fact is at this level of football, he's not a winner.

agree with your post on the whole and not a diss in your direction with the quote but last season McLeish did prove himself to be a winner at this level, even if no-one seems to remember it now!

[Matt Collins]

Can't be bothered to read the thread, but with Everton there for the takng this sort of stuff is the last thing we need. A win could see us ninth. Get behind the team. It's only 2 league games since we won wonderfully at Chelsea. Embarrassing if you ask me.

[Matt Collins]

A protest against RL is nonsense. We couldn't have asked more from over the past few years. We should be waving banners praising him to the heavens if truth be known.

yeah, how we've moved on from the times of Doug where we couldn't buy anyone, sold all our best players and only brought in loan players.....


oh.

I don't recall Doug putting about £200m of his own money into the side. It wasn't lack of support that meant a fair bit of that was wasted, it was some poor and naive decisions perhaps, but Randy really gave it a good go. His era is the only time in our history that Villa have gone out and bought genuine established (but young) England internationals or highly rated players. You can't honestly think that in Doug's era we were buying the equivalents of Friedel, Milner, Young, Bent, Downing, Carew, Petrov all within a 3 year period? I can only really think of Collymore and Saunders as that kind of signing, maybe Steve Staunton too. If Doug had given Brian Little the kind of support Randy gave MON, I expect we'd have ended up with much better than Grayson, Nelson, Curcic. I find it astonishing that people forget all that Randy had put into this club. And very ungrateful.

I woke up quite confident about getting a win today. This thread has put me in a bad and pessimistic mood.

[john e]

 i bet it all goes of without so much as a wimper, no footage on SKY, no media interest, just a few people shouting a bit,
 all you guys are getting your knickers in a twist for absolutly nothing,   [on the other hand i could be wrong]

[Chris Smith]

I'm still pretty sure that as high earners come off the books money will be made available for the manager to rebuild. That's the time when we can really judge both Lerner and McLeiah, not now while we're just trying to muddle through a transition season as best we can.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

I cannot see anything anywhere about the organising/promotion of this protest. None of my searches showed anything apart from discussions here and on other forums about it.
I was thinking of going down slightly earlier, treating myself to some of those nice doughnuts from that van just before the Holte pub and seeing if anyone marches round.

Anyway, it looks a lovely day for a football game - ideal for a good contest between two real clubs in Englands most contested top flight fixture.
Furthermore, it is being played on Saturday at 3pm. (Still always the best time for a game ! )  Why would I want to get angry and mardy about my favourite time of the week ?
Hopefully - good football, a few goals, and three points for us. UP THE VILLA EVERYBODY ! 

[Handsworth Wood Villa]

Anyway, it looks a lovely day for a football game

It looks like it's freezing 

[Risso]

A protest against RL is nonsense. We couldn't have asked more from over the past few years. We should be waving banners praising him to the heavens if truth be known.

yeah, how we've moved on from the times of Doug where we couldn't buy anyone, sold all our best players and only brought in loan players.....


oh.

I don't recall Doug putting about £200m of his own money into the side. It wasn't lack of support that meant a fair bit of that was wasted, it was some poor and naive decisions perhaps, but Randy really gave it a good go. His era is the only time in our history that Villa have gone out and bought genuine established (but young) England internationals or highly rated players. You can't honestly think that in Doug's era we were buying the equivalents of Friedel, Milner, Young, Bent, Downing, Carew, Petrov all within a 3 year period? I can only really think of Collymore and Saunders as that kind of signing, maybe Steve Staunton too. If Doug had given Brian Little the kind of support Randy gave MON, I expect we'd have ended up with much better than Grayson, Nelson, Curcic. I find it astonishing that people forget all that Randy had put into this club. And very ungrateful.

I woke up quite confident about getting a win today. This thread has put me in a bad and pessimistic mood.

Saunders, Houghton, Staunton, Barrett, Collymore, Curcic, Thompson, Draper, Wright, Milosevic, Dublin, Merson.  Probably three groups of players under Atkinson, Little and Gregory who were all just as good a mixture of promising/good/young/exciting as the players you mention.  Not to mention a lot more successful in several cases.

[Risso]

I'm still pretty sure that as high earners come off the books money will be made available for the manager to rebuild. That's the time when we can really judge both Lerner and McLeiah, not now while we're just trying to muddle through a transition season as best we can.

Reducing the wages isn't going to pay back the huge losses or pay off the existing loans though Chris.

[Dave Cooper please]

Risso is right.

No he isnt

Oh he is, the Tory bastard!

[Hampshire Villa]

it's too cold to protest about anything but the continued lack of Steak and Kidney Pies!

[WALTERS WARRIORS]

Can we go back to the Quatar take over rumour please !!! i was very enthusiastic when i woke up, but now having read a thread on a an anti Mcleish demo seems self destructive. Close this thread and lets try " Mcleish could be the manager to take this club forward" Come on Villa ........

[joe_c]

I've just read the whole thread. Fucking hell, folks, this doesn't matter, does it? What a waste of all our time.

And I realise that I'm worse than all of you - I don't contribute (apart from if I've had more than 3 glasses, when I normally have a pop at Dave Woodhall for no real reason), I just sit here with ennui.

Stop caring so much about this. Spend more time with your families; learn the piano; take up smoking smack - anything but this. It's such a tedious waste of our thoughts, and the only winner is Rupert Murdoch.

Can I be banned please Dave?

[Clampy]

This is Clampy your roving reporter by Witton Island and theres absolutley nothing to report. Stay tuned for further developments as and when we I get them.

[TheSandman]

Any more updates? What was the crowd?

Agree wholeheartedly with Kevin Gage's post. I don't think McLeish is the problem but is only a symptom. I really hope that this is only a temporary state of regrouping before another crack at it but I don't see it. Indeed, all the signs point to the club still feeling that wages need to be reduced even further and I'm not sure if the few more higher earners who will be leaving soon will see any significant new incomers, it will be more on loan or mediocre journeymen coming in. Of course, one has to question what would really be the point of Lerner continuing to invest. Will we really be able to reel in the teams who are significantly better than us at this moment in time?