England 2012 Cricket Thread

[Dave Cooper please]

More worrying is the Indian Board's decision to not partake in this. They should be made to comply otherwise stats on wickets are going to look silly.

Yes 100%.

[OzVilla]

A) Why is Englands batting coach not with the team in Dubai rather than sitting with his feet up in Essex ?

Apparently, Graham Gooch is only contracted by the ECB to do a certain number of days a year so isn't with the side.  I'd imagine Gooch would love to be there as is his passion for the game.

Considering the amount of support staff that this side has, it's unbelievable that Gooch hasn't gone on this tour and yet again smacks of complacency. 

This tour has really exposed a few things and they arn't good.

[Dave Cooper please]

This tour has really exposed a few things and they arn't good.

Or conversely it is good, unlike previous regimes when bugger all will have been done to improve our deficiencies, I have every confidence that we will learn from this and come back.

[OzVilla]

Yes, I understand what you mean.  But they really shouldn't have to 'learn' some of the mistakes that they've made - not as top class sportpeople.  But i suppose if it has to happen, better it be against Pakistan in Dubia than aginst the insufferable Saffas for worse still Aussies. 

How many of us saw this coming though, I know I didn't.

It does make those predictions that England could have a stranglehold on the top spot for a few years like the Aussies and Windies did seem extremely hollow though.

[Dave Cooper please]

I didn't see this coming either, so it will either be a big kick up the arse and we'll come back fighting, or we've been found out, I favour the former but who knows!

[PaulWinch again]

I agree I think we'll come back, but we need a lot of work for Sri Lanka and India.

[TheTimVilla]

Pakistan are 217 ahead. Is that enough?!

[PaulWinch again]

They're 305 ahead now, it all depends how we bat. There isn't an issue for time, but if we bat like we have done there is obviously no chance.

[PaulWinch again]

It's turning plenty now, so I think we're going to struggle badly.

[Villan For Life]

Can I make two points;

A) Why is Englands batting coach not with the team in Dubai rather than sitting with his feet up in Essex ?

B) Why when we know that the Pakistan attack will have at least one left arm spinner in the team and we know we play spin poorly have we not got a "net bowler" lined up rather than relying on Jimmy Anderson to twirl spin ?

a) No idea. But Flower was batting coach before so he could fill in.

b) Isn't Mushtaq Ahmed the spin bowling coach? Assuming he's there with them, we don't have another spinner that could replicate anything like what they're facing.

Disagree it smacks of complacency as does all of our batting

Flower was rated number one batsman in the world. How is that complacent? The batsmen need help and advice and Flower can deliver it.

[Villan For Life]

It's turning plenty now, so I think we're going to struggle badly.

I think so too. I'll be amazed if we can pull this out of the bag.

[spangley1812]

Can I make two points;

A) Why is Englands batting coach not with the team in Dubai rather than sitting with his feet up in Essex ?

B) Why when we know that the Pakistan attack will have at least one left arm spinner in the team and we know we play spin poorly have we not got a "net bowler" lined up rather than relying on Jimmy Anderson to twirl spin ?

a) No idea. But Flower was batting coach before so he could fill in.

b) Isn't Mushtaq Ahmed the spin bowling coach? Assuming he's there with them, we don't have another spinner that could replicate anything like what they're facing.

Disagree it smacks of complacency as does all of our batting

Flower was rated number one batsman in the world. How is that complacent? The batsmen need help and advice and Flower can deliver it.

So why after 5 innings have the batsmen still no idea on how to play spin...............

[PaulWinch again]

Bloody hell they're folding like us.

[PaulWinch again]

I notice as well those falling at the moment are all prodding around and not being aggressive.

[PaulWinch again]

Sad news on Yuvraj, hope he recovers soon.