McLeish out Chants / banners / protests

[KevinGage]

I'm pretty certain McLeish doesn't send sides out to surrender, or even pick teams with the emphasis on keeping the score down. 

But if he is doubtful about our chances or talks the opposition too much, this transmits to the players and they might be left with a feeling of 'what can we do anyway, lets just get the game out of the way.' 

For all his various failings debated at length here, the one thing MON did was seemingly send sides out with a belief that they could win any game.  Didn't always work, wasn't always pretty at times.  But there was never a sense that we should pay the opposition too much respect and stand off them, or know our place.

Hopefully the penny has dropped for McLeish in that regard too now.  I'll need a bit more than a defeat at home to Arsenal and a scoreless away draw to Stoke to feel we've really turned the corner, but there have been encouraging signs we *might* be moving in the right direction.

[dave.woodhall]

If it were up to me I'd sack him and get Hodgson in.

It'd give the club a lift, he's shown in recent seasons he's capable of doing well at clubs with similar ambitions to ours currently and he improves players. Which would save us a fortune.

And how many weeks would you give Hodgson before sacking him?

[Matt C]

I don't think sacking another manager, paying him compensation and then getting another one who's already in a job, paying more compensation is going to save us a fortune.

[Chipsticks]

Hodgson won't leave West Brom for another few years yet anyway.

[PaulTheVillan]

If it were up to me I'd sack him and get Hodgson in.

It'd give the club a lift, he's shown in recent seasons he's capable of doing well at clubs with similar ambitions to ours currently and he improves players. Which would save us a fortune.

And how many weeks would you give Hodgson before sacking him?

The few West Brom fans I know really don't rate Hodgson. They moan he's just as negative. Plays a back4, then sticks Sharnar & Mulumbu infront of them.

[dave.woodhall]

Hodgson won't leave West Brom for another few years yet anyway.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. There are whispers that the board aren't too happy about him not signing a new contract and he's looking towards the England job.

[NeilH]

If it were up to me I'd sack him and get Hodgson in.

It'd give the club a lift, he's shown in recent seasons he's capable of doing well at clubs with similar ambitions to ours currently and he improves players. Which would save us a fortune.

And how many weeks would you give Hodgson before sacking him?

The few West Brom fans I know really don't rate Hodgson. They moan he's just as negative. Plays a back4, then sticks Sharnar & Mulumbu infront of them.

To be fair, negative football is clearly not in the great tradition of the Smethwick Brazil.

[Damo70]

I never fail to be surprised that the two clubs in English football who consistently play the best football year in and year out, West Ham and West Brom get relegated so often. How Tony Mowbray's side went down a couple of years back is a mystery right up there with how Brazil failed to win the 1982 world cup.

[kippaxvilla2]

McLeish's continuing tenure as manager of our club depends on what the actual vision is from the owner and his poodle in terms of success on the pitch.

If the vision ranges from survival to mid table being a half decent season then the right man is in charge, provided even he can use the current crop of players to lose his tag of Jonah.

If however the vision is to finish near or in the European places then entirely the wrong man is in charge and in these circumstances you would have to question the wisdom of the decision to appoint in the first place.

It therefore only leads me to believe that the ambitions for success on the pitch have been scaled down considerably and can probably be bracketed under treading water.

[JJ-AV]

If it were up to me I'd sack him and get Hodgson in.

It'd give the club a lift, he's shown in recent seasons he's capable of doing well at clubs with similar ambitions to ours currently and he improves players. Which would save us a fortune.

And how many weeks would you give Hodgson before sacking him?

As many as he needed to get it right, within reason, as he's a good football manager.

McLeish is not. He's average at best. And with many just waiting for an excuse to really lay into him the whole operation seems incredibly pointless.

[dave.woodhall]

If it were up to me I'd sack him and get Hodgson in.

It'd give the club a lift, he's shown in recent seasons he's capable of doing well at clubs with similar ambitions to ours currently and he improves players. Which would save us a fortune.

And how many weeks would you give Hodgson before sacking him?

As many as he needed to get it right, within reason, as he's a good football manager.

McLeish is not. He's average at best. And with many just waiting for an excuse to really lay into him the whole operation seems incredibly pointless.

The day when justification for sacking a manager is because "many" don't like him is the day we should give up. But still, Roy Hodgson won the Swedish league title - that's what I call impressive.

[KRS]

If it were up to me I'd sack him and get Hodgson in.

It'd give the club a lift, he's shown in recent seasons he's capable of doing well at clubs with similar ambitions to ours currently and he improves players. Which would save us a fortune.

And how many weeks would you give Hodgson before sacking him?

The few West Brom fans I know really don't rate Hodgson. They moan he's just as negative. Plays a back4, then sticks Sharnar & Mulumbu infront of them.

The Baggies fans I know love Hodgson...might be something to do with the fact that got a great result and performance against Citeh, they are now in the top half of the league and above the Villa making them "pride of the Midlands" again. (yes, they do talk a load of shite)

AM has done everything thats been asked of him so far, so to sack him now would be bordering on a case for unfair dismissal. Hes kept us in the top half of the table until recently, dealt with cost cuts and I expect he will continue to go about his job with a limited transfer fund with a sell to buy policy. If this was made clear to him and hes not kicking up a fuss behind the scenes then its hard to see Randy being unhappy...and the line from PF about European qualification is just a smoke screen to shut the fans up with a false promise of ambition.

[brian green]

West Ham and West Brom are the two best two footballing teams in England?  Nurse, I think it is time for my medication.

[Percy McCarthy]

I think he was being sarcastic Brian.

[old man villa fan]

If the vision ranges from survival to mid table being a half decent season then the right man is in charge, provided even he can use the current crop of players to lose his tag of Jonah.

If however the vision is to finish near or in the European places then entirely the wrong man is in charge and in these circumstances you would have to question the wisdom of the decision to appoint in the first place.

Would agree with those comments.

It therefore only leads me to believe that the ambitions for success on the pitch have been scaled down considerably and can probably be bracketed under treading water.

Or, Randy really thinks AM is the man to achieve the latter of your visions - worrying