Stan Collymore

[Fuse]

Rodders, keep your chin uo mate. Horrible situaiton to be and I wish you all the best.

As for SVC I feel for the guy and have nothing but admiration for him as he has managed to build himself a very successful second career (which I think he is outstanding at by the way in comparison to his peers) and all this despite suffering from a terrible illness.

Thankfully most people are aware today if how common and terrible this illness is - good luck to anyone suffering from it.

[curiousorange]

I, like many posters in this thread, have suffered from crippling depressions in the past and yeah, in moments of utter desolation have tried to end it all. Thankfully for me, there were things I'm more capable of doing than topping myself. But like any other illness, there's no rhyme or reason to it. There was one particular incident I recall where I was sitting watching an England game trying to eat something, and I realised that I'd been crying for most of the game without knowing why I was doing it.

My ex was on tablets for years and i found, not that I'm defending ignorance about it, that after a certain point I got annoyed because she never seemed to get better. In certain respects it may have contributed to the break-up. But until you know how it actually feels yourself you can have no concept of how hard it is to try and make it back to the light. I can see why the attitude exists but I hope the doubters never find out how it feels because I had a taste of it, and I much prefer being healthy and alive rather than the other options.

Fair play to Collymore: he may have made mistakes, but publicising a battle with depression isn't one of them.

[gaucho1966]

Bollocks to SVC. He is making a career of being a professional Villa fan, when in reality he stiffed us royally without even a kiss my arse. Churchill won the war with crippling depression, SVC couldn't even put a shift in on £40,000 odd a week.

[barrysleftfoot]

  Good Luck Rodders, being self-employed i have ben through very tough times as well.I would recommend you get as much advice as possible from CAB etc, i did and that allowed me to get back on my feet and improve my situation.

  You may find some of the things you think you are obliged to do/told to do, you might not need to.Don't let the bar stewards get you down, best of luck.

[Dave Cooper please]

Bollocks to SVC. He is making a career of being a professional Villa fan, when in reality he stiffed us royally without even a kiss my arse. Churchill won the war with crippling depression, SVC couldn't even put shift in on £40,000 odd a week.

There's always one, or in our case, two.

[gaucho1966]

Bollocks to SVC. He is making a career of being a professional Villa fan, when in reality he stiffed us royally without even a kiss my arse. Churchill won the war with crippling depression, SVC couldn't even put shift in on £40,000 odd a week.

There's always one, or in our case, two.

I'm quite prepared to agree that he was unable to function in a Villa shirt due to depression,  but to have the brass neck to make out that he's our  greatest fan when in effect he never gave a monkeys is taking the biscuit.

[Chipsticks]

I, like many posters in this thread, have suffered from crippling depressions in the past and yeah, in moments of utter desolation have tried to end it all. Thankfully for me, there were things I'm more capable of doing than topping myself. But like any other illness, there's no rhyme or reason to it. There was one particular incident I recall where I was sitting watching an England game trying to eat something, and I realised that I'd been crying for most of the game without knowing why I was doing it.

My ex was on tablets for years and i found, not that I'm defending ignorance about it, that after a certain point I got annoyed because she never seemed to get better. In certain respects it may have contributed to the break-up. But until you know how it actually feels yourself you can have no concept of how hard it is to try and make it back to the light. I can see why the attitude exists but I hope the doubters never find out how it feels because I had a taste of it, and I much prefer being healthy and alive rather than the other options.

Fair play to Collymore: he may have made mistakes, but publicising a battle with depression isn't one of them.

I know it's not what you posted here, but you have nothing but my deepest sympathies for what you clearly went through.

[brian green]

Good luck rodders.   Be sure you will shoot through.   Many of us have been where you are some of us more than once or twice.

There is a growing body of evidence that a great deal of what is broadly described as depression is viral in its origins.   I was struck down in my mid thirties with what was diagnosed as glandular fever and my daughter was afflicted in the same way at the same age.   Within our family the story went that the cause of our extreme poverty was caused by my father having a nervous breakdown but all I have heard and been told by those around him at the time makes me believe that he too had some sort of viral infection which affected his central nervous system.

The real problem is the totally unjustified stigma which mental illness carries.   The whole illness is bundled up as "madness".   Once the illness can be attributed to an infectious invasion of a virus the sufferer suddenly is allowed the courtesy of being readmitted to the human race.

I would not wish anybody to go to the places depression sufferers go and those who do have my deepest sympathy.

Oddly enough coming on here I find good for keeping the black dog on his chain.   Keep posting rodders.

[Rigadon]

Bollocks to SVC. He is making a career of being a professional Villa fan, when in reality he stiffed us royally without even a kiss my arse. Churchill won the war with crippling depression, SVC couldn't even put shift in on £40,000 odd a week.

There's always one, or in our case, two.

I'm quite prepared to agree that he was unable to function in a Villa shirt due to depression,  but to have the brass neck to make out that he's our  greatest fan when in effect he never gave a monkeys is taking the biscuit.

What are you on about?  Why would you give a fuck how much of a 'fan' he is?  This thread is about a horrible, horrible illness.  Some people on here have bared their souls a bit so show some respect for that.  Post your vitriol somewhere else eh?

[woody4866]

In the last two weeks my business has failed, leaving me massively in debt, my partner has been rushed to hospital with a potentially life threatening condition and my ex has revealed that she's moving to the other side of the country and taking our son with her. I'm about to lose my vehicle and my flat, and in all likelihood be declared bankrupt very soon.

As someone who has suffered with chronic depression for many years (have been through Prozac, Amitryptyline, Citalopram, am on Mirtazapine again at the moment) and has experienced many times when I wasn't fully in control, I have every empathy for SVC in his struggle against the Black Dog... But wouldn't argue with anyone's right to call him a cock. Even people who don't suffer with depression can be cocks, or so I understand...

fookin hell - puts my sh!tty week into perspective

all the best chap

PS - I think Stan is a top fella despite his "problems"

[QBVILLA]

I wonder just how much sympathy Stan Collymore would receive had he been your average joe with a 9-5 job? With his fame and fortune comes great opportunity and with that tremendous  pressure .I feel sympathy for anyone suffering from depression, it is a terrible illness.Those on the outside looking in can easily say "what's he got to be depressed over" before pointing out all of the things he's been able to do in his life that many of us would love to do.For beating his girlfriend up, wasting a god given talent and generally making downright stupid decisions I can have no sympathy.Yes, these things can be attributed to his illness but that is offering a way out and from personal experience where i've had a mother and a brother in law in deep bouts of depression, excuses aren't what is needed.Would everyone on here be so sympathetic of Collymore had he been lets say Paul Tait for example? I somehow doubt it, but i'd like to think so. Collymore goes down as one of the biggest wastes of talent i've ever seen.The man had the lot as a footballer, though lacked the mental stability to match the talent.For a modern day equivalent i'd point to our very own Stephen Ireland, let's hope he doesn't suffer in the future.

[Rick_avfc]

Bollocks to SVC. He is making a career of being a professional Villa fan, when in reality he stiffed us royally without even a kiss my arse. Churchill won the war with crippling depression, SVC couldn't even put a shift in on £40,000 odd a week.

Just remember, money doesn't always bring you happiness!
Im sorry but your comments are bang out of order and clearly you are uneducated in this area so you and Usualsuspect should start your own thread and post your trash in there

[Shrek]

Bollocks to SVC. He is making a career of being a professional Villa fan, when in reality he stiffed us royally without even a kiss my arse. Churchill won the war with crippling depression, SVC couldn't even put shift in on £40,000 odd a week.

There's always one, or in our case, two.

I'm quite prepared to agree that he was unable to function in a Villa shirt due to depression,  but to have the brass neck to make out that he's our  greatest fan when in effect he never gave a monkeys is taking the biscuit.

What are you on about?  Why would you give a fuck how much of a 'fan' he is?  This thread is about a horrible, horrible illness.  Some people on here have bared their souls a bit so show some respect for that.  Post your vitriol somewhere else eh?

I'm sorry but I'm not having this bollocks, Stan is quality at what he now does, he is a Villa fan, I can't think of many others in the media.

He has a problem and his using his public status to try and help others, let's admire him and congratulate him instead of knocking him while he is down, for goodness sake.

[john2710]

usual suspect you are an ignorant c***

Please be aware that this is a site that is used by people of many ages, from teens (and possibly younger) up to OAPs.

This is a forum for debate and discussion. It is not intended to allow personal attacks (be it on individuals, groups of individuals or other forums), harassment, rudeness, insulting posts or purposeless inflammatory posts.

Except, however in this case.

Anyone who suffers from this illness has my sympathies, irrespective of who they are. But at the same time it cannot always be used as an excuse. Clinical depression descends without cause or reason and most people who suffer with it spend a lifetime learning to cope with it, always on the lookout for the next episode. Just as surely as it comes, it will go away again, avoiding situations which cause stress or anxiety whilst you are on a down help. There is obviously still a lot ignorance surrounding depression, drug abuse and alcoholism which for some poor individuals are often linked.

SVC & Rodders, you have my thoughts & best wishes.     

[Yossarian]

As someone with depression once said, "If you're going through hell, keep going". Keep going Rodders.