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Offline VillaAlways

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Re: Open advice to AM
« Reply #45 on: November 24, 2011, 09:23:48 AM »
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« Last Edit: November 24, 2011, 09:25:28 AM by ZoggyAlways »

Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Open advice to AM
« Reply #46 on: November 24, 2011, 09:38:36 AM »
My advice would be. Let's practice set peices. Let's play players in their proper positions.

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Open advice to AM
« Reply #47 on: November 24, 2011, 09:51:23 AM »
I think things could be worse than we thought. When the smythster is in full-on save manager mode things are usually pretty bleak. Gone by January.

As usual Greg the argument goes 100 feet over your head.

It's not save the manager it's just making the obvious case that 12 games and half a transfer window is not long enough to make an informed decision. Now I know you don't worry about the informed part but I expect more from the intelligent posters.

Not sure what you mean there Chris. Are you saying you're the James Collins of this forum? Punting opinions out that no-one else can get their head on? The point everyone else is making is after 12 games and half a transfer window they should be able to pass to each other, not boot the ball straight to the opposition and have the occasional shot on target even against the mighty Spurs who you seem to have elevated to Barcelona levels of greatness overnight.. That's not dominating posession, that just what most teams can manage.
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Re: Open advice to AM
« Reply #48 on: November 24, 2011, 10:28:31 AM »
Just out of interest, and apologies if this has been asked elsewhere, but what would people's opinions have been had we played the same side, but got a 0-0 draw?
I think the side was fundamentally flawed; not so much by playing Hutton as a RMF, 'cos actually he does his best work going forwards IMO. It was more the role that Heskey was expected to play and - more importantly - the psychological message the starting eleven must have sent to both Villa and the oppo. McGinge indicated - in neon lights - that he  was shooting for a 0-0 and thinking defensively.
Teams that do well at WHL tend to be those that have a go and attack Spurs. If we'd kept the same side as against Norwich and had a go, the fallout from the game - whatever the result - would be more muted.

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Re: Open advice to AM
« Reply #49 on: November 24, 2011, 10:32:26 AM »
My advice would be. Let's practice set peices. Let's play players in their proper positions.

Now you're just being silly

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Re: Open advice to AM
« Reply #50 on: November 24, 2011, 10:32:29 AM »
The point everyone else is making is after 12 games and half a transfer window they should be able to pass to each other, not boot the ball straight to the opposition and have the occasional shot on target even against the mighty Spurs who you seem to have elevated to Barcelona levels of greatness overnight.. That's not dominating posession, that just what most teams can manage.
I think that's a reasonable expectation - in fact, my base expectation from McMinge was that we'd sort out the defensive chaos of last season; we don't appear to have done that, which probably means that the defensive personnel are wrong 'cos they clearly ain't learning the lessons.

Since the two fullbacks and the keeper are different from last season, maybe  it's the CB's ...

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Re: Open advice to AM
« Reply #51 on: November 24, 2011, 10:43:16 AM »
Just out of interest, and apologies if this has been asked elsewhere, but what would people's opinions have been had we played the same side, but got a 0-0 draw?

I'd have been repenting to God / Muhammed / Buddha / Luke Skywalker as the world was clearly about to end.

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Re: Open advice to AM
« Reply #52 on: November 24, 2011, 11:00:39 AM »
Just out of interest, and apologies if this has been asked elsewhere, but what would people's opinions have been had we played the same side, but got a 0-0 draw?

If you're going to play dull football at least be good at it, I don't think we are.

Offline Risso

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Re: Open advice to AM
« Reply #53 on: November 24, 2011, 11:19:56 AM »
McLeish's one half decent Premier League season was based on Blues winning quite a few matches 1-0 playing dull football.  As we're clearly incapable of the clean sheet part of that style of playing, I'd suggest that he doesn't repeat Monday's "experiment".  The twat.

Offline Iago

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Re: Open advice to AM
« Reply #54 on: November 24, 2011, 11:49:24 AM »
McLeish's one half decent Premier League season was based on Blues winning quite a few matches 1-0 playing dull football.  As we're clearly incapable of the clean sheet part of that style of playing, I'd suggest that he doesn't repeat Monday's "experiment".  The twat.
Joe Hart was instrumental in that successful league season. And I could understand RL poaching AM while his stock was high, but to take him after relegating our most bitter rivals is absurd.

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Re: Open advice to AM
« Reply #55 on: November 24, 2011, 12:23:18 PM »
The point everyone else is making is after 12 games and half a transfer window they should be able to pass to each other, not boot the ball straight to the opposition and have the occasional shot on target even against the mighty Spurs who you seem to have elevated to Barcelona levels of greatness overnight.. That's not dominating posession, that just what most teams can manage.
I think that's a reasonable expectation - in fact, my base expectation from McMinge was that we'd sort out the defensive chaos of last season; we don't appear to have done that, which probably means that the defensive personnel are wrong 'cos they clearly ain't learning the lessons.

Since the two fullbacks and the keeper are different from last season, maybe  it's the CB's ...

BINGO

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Re: Open advice to AM
« Reply #56 on: November 24, 2011, 12:34:23 PM »
The point everyone else is making is after 12 games and half a transfer window they should be able to pass to each other, not boot the ball straight to the opposition and have the occasional shot on target even against the mighty Spurs who you seem to have elevated to Barcelona levels of greatness overnight.. That's not dominating posession, that just what most teams can manage.
I think that's a reasonable expectation - in fact, my base expectation from McMinge was that we'd sort out the defensive chaos of last season; we don't appear to have done that, which probably means that the defensive personnel are wrong 'cos they clearly ain't learning the lessons.

Since the two fullbacks and the keeper are different from last season, maybe  it's the CB's ...

What Greg is doing is what he always does. He only returns to blight us after a bad performance then tries to convince everyone that's what we're always like. The two previous games had been very positive performances but that is just brushed under the carpet as it doesn't suit his stance.

The truth is we're up and down, some good, some bad and some ugly. After the upheaval of the previous 18 months it's hardly a surprise. It's going to take a lot of hard work from manager, coaches and players to sort it out and anyone expecting it to all be done in 12 games is living in a fantasy world.

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Re: Open advice to AM
« Reply #57 on: November 24, 2011, 12:47:27 PM »
Watched the game yet Chris?  Thought not.

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Re: Open advice to AM
« Reply #58 on: November 24, 2011, 12:51:05 PM »
Risso, you're starting to sound like her that does that "Am I bovvered" rubbish!


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Re: Open advice to AM
« Reply #59 on: November 24, 2011, 12:53:09 PM »
The point everyone else is making is after 12 games and half a transfer window they should be able to pass to each other, not boot the ball straight to the opposition and have the occasional shot on target even against the mighty Spurs who you seem to have elevated to Barcelona levels of greatness overnight.. That's not dominating posession, that just what most teams can manage.
I think that's a reasonable expectation - in fact, my base expectation from McMinge was that we'd sort out the defensive chaos of last season; we don't appear to have done that, which probably means that the defensive personnel are wrong 'cos they clearly ain't learning the lessons.

Since the two fullbacks and the keeper are different from last season, maybe  it's the CB's ...

What Greg is doing is what he always does. He only returns to blight us after a bad performance   

Correct. Either that or he's wobbling on about MON like a love sick teenager.

 


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