Guardian apologises to ex-manager

[Sexual Ealing]

It takes a somewhat odd Villa fan to turn up on this thread and gloat over this. Especially when - yet again - he's actually entirely wrong in his odd interpretation of facts.

I'm not even remotely surprised to see which Villa fan it is.

So a tribunal finds in his favour, a national newspaper sets the record straight about some of the falsehoods taken as watertight evidence on here - so you then resort to suggest that there's something weird about someone who's been right all along coming back to point it out?

Weird.

[dave.woodhall]

It takes a somewhat odd Villa fan to turn up on this thread and gloat over this. Especially when - yet again - he's actually entirely wrong in his odd interpretation of facts.

I'm not even remotely surprised to see which Villa fan it is.

So a tribunal finds in his favour, a national newspaper sets the record straight about some of the falsehoods taken as watertight evidence on here - so you then resort to suggest that there's something weird about someone who's been right all along coming back to point it out?

Weird.

Nobody ever said he was "justifiably dismissed," which seems his main bone of contention.

[ROBBO]

ONeil had one big asset, he could get average players to play above themselves for a sustained period, and he needed that skill. If he had departed the club in an acceptable time frame i would not be super critical, he tried he failed, it happens.

[Risso]

As I understand it, it was a compromise agreement.  The club wanted to pay him nowt, O'Neill presumably wanted his full £3m, and they settled somewhere between those two figures.  Of course O'Neill would describe this as a victory.

[Risso]

ONeil had one big asset, he could get average players to play above themselves for a sustained period, and he needed that skill. If he had departed the club in an acceptable time frame i would not be super critical, he tried he failed, it happens.

Some average players he did.

[Villa'Zawg]

"Constructive dismissal is when an employee is forced to quit their job against their will because of their employer's conduct." - Directgov website.


*cheery whistling emoticon*

Six weeks away and look what brings you back....

I spotted Legion's tweet and was hoping to read your mea culpa on having been mistaken about O'Neill's constructive dismissal.

And yet nothing else has happened that you consider worthy of comment. It's also interesting that you seem to be pleased a former employee apparently 'won' a case which cost the club you support a large sum. 

The only thing I find pleasing about this is that the facts are beginning to come to the fore, I don't think it benefits the club that we ignore or deny the facts.

[Greg N'Ash]

Oh great, another thread to bash Martin O'Neill.

We don't come across as a jilted lover.

NoSireeBob

erm......he's the one who's just presumably spent a fortune on lawyers getting the Guardian to confirm he left us and not the other way round.. Sort of thing someone like Jordon would sue for - why would you care unless you were a complete egomaniac?

[dave.woodhall]

"Constructive dismissal is when an employee is forced to quit their job against their will because of their employer's conduct." - Directgov website.


*cheery whistling emoticon*

Six weeks away and look what brings you back....

I spotted Legion's tweet and was hoping to read your mea culpa on having been mistaken about O'Neill's constructive dismissal.

And yet nothing else has happened that you consider worthy of comment. It's also interesting that you seem to be pleased a former employee apparently 'won' a case which cost the club you support a large sum. 

The only thing I find pleasing about this is that the facts are beginning to come to the fore, I don't think it benefits the club that we ignore or deny the facts.

And we all know your definition of the word 'fact'. It really is laughable that the only time you've come on here for so long is to defend a man who acts against the best interests of the club.

[Villa'Zawg]

"Constructive dismissal is when an employee is forced to quit their job against their will because of their employer's conduct." - Directgov website.


*cheery whistling emoticon*

Six weeks away and look what brings you back....

I spotted Legion's tweet and was hoping to read your mea culpa on having been mistaken about O'Neill's constructive dismissal.

And yet nothing else has happened that you consider worthy of comment. It's also interesting that you seem to be pleased a former employee apparently 'won' a case which cost the club you support a large sum. 

The only thing I find pleasing about this is that the facts are beginning to come to the fore, I don't think it benefits the club that we ignore or deny the facts.

And we all know your definition of the word 'fact'. It really is laughable that the only time you've come on here for so long is to defend a man who acts against the best interests of the club.

I don't agree that Martin O'Neill acts against the best interests of the club, that's a daft assertion. He either was entitled to compensation or he wasn't and he either was misrepresented in the Guardian (and on here) or he wasn't.

I think he was doing a more than decent job until Faulkner was appointed CEO and the board decided that they couldn't afford to compete, even on the relatively modest (Premier League) terms they had up till that point. An average £20m investment in transfer fess per season and £89m in wages wasn't in anyway excessive for where we were in our development, based on the boards stated ambitions.

[dave.woodhall]

If walking out five days before the start of the season then suing us isn't "acting against the best interests of the club" I wouldn't like to see what is. You've made it clear where your allegiance lies and you've been able to type out your favourite numbers again, so don't hesitate to return next time he gets a mention.

[Villa'Zawg]

If walking out five days before the start of the season then suing us isn't "acting against the best interests of the club" I wouldn't like to see what is. You've made it clear where your allegiance lies and you've been able to type out your favourite numbers again, so don't hesitate to return next time he gets a mention.

Your "walked out" is my "untenable position", it really isn't so hard to understand why i disagree with you unless you think your opinion is the only one that counts. I've only popped in today but it's fun to see that  disagreeing with you apparently equates to a lack of allegiance for Villa, Do you ever worry that you might be a wee bit too far up your own arse?

[dave.woodhall]

If walking out five days before the start of the season then suing us isn't "acting against the best interests of the club" I wouldn't like to see what is. You've made it clear where your allegiance lies and you've been able to type out your favourite numbers again, so don't hesitate to return next time he gets a mention.

Your "walked out" is my "untenable position", it really isn't so hard to understand why i disagree with you unless you think your opinion is the only one that counts. I've only popped in today but it's fun to see that  disagreeing with you apparently equates to a lack of allegiance for Villa, Do you ever worry that you might be a wee bit too far up your own arse?

Any chance you might talk about something I've actually written instead of stamping your foot because the nasty man's saying things about your hero? Disagreeing with me doesn't mean anything - O'Neill's actions showed his true feelings, and continue to do so. Even by your standards that last bit is pathetic. 

[Sexual Ealing]

If walking out five days before the start of the season then suing us isn't "acting against the best interests of the club" I wouldn't like to see what is. You've made it clear where your allegiance lies and you've been able to type out your favourite numbers again, so don't hesitate to return next time he gets a mention.

Your "walked out" is my "untenable position", it really isn't so hard to understand why i disagree with you unless you think your opinion is the only one that counts.

Any chance you might talk about something I've actually written instead of stamping your foot because the nasty man's saying things about your hero?

Not my argument, I know, but how about this bit?

[Sexual Ealing]

For clarity, the "untenable position" comment.

[dave.woodhall]

We all know when he walked out. Given the timing, I fail to see how malice didn't play at least a big part in that decision.