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Author Topic: Does Roy Hodgson Owe Us An Apology?  (Read 23616 times)

Online Dave

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Re: Does Roy Hodgson Owe Us An Apology?
« Reply #75 on: October 27, 2011, 09:56:36 AM »
law 12: A red card is given for "denying an obvious goal scoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player's goal is a punishable offence..."
Technically he wasn't heading towards the goal. By clipping the ball past Foster, the ball was heading towards the corner flag.

Had he not been brought down then yes, he would have controlled it and scored but the fact that the ball wasn't rolling towards the goal is the get-out clause that the referee needs to avoid showing a red card.

Sorry dave but the laws as linked here don't require the ball to be going towards goal (unless you can tell me better). Gabby was clearly moving towards the albion goal. Ergo I am not clerar why under the laws stated he was not sent off unless it was a cock up by the ref.
I'm not suggesting the laws do say it. I'm saying that's how referees are interpreting it at the moment.

See Richardson against Liverpool earlier in the season - an even greater argument there for it being a sending-off than the Gabby one, but no red card because there is an excuse not to give it.

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Re: Does Roy Hodgson Owe Us An Apology?
« Reply #76 on: October 27, 2011, 03:50:51 PM »
If he can get to the ball in time its still a goal scoring opportunity, which he could. He was in a position he could easily score. And last man does make a difference. At the very least its a booking. If you give a penalty give a booking, as I was told by an assesor

Last man might make a difference, and might not, but only in relation to whether he would have prevented it being a clear goal scoring opportunity or not.  Merely being last man does not make a difference in itself, as reflected by there being no mention of it in the laws.  You can still have a goal scoring opportunity even if there is an additional defender between you and the goal.   

And according to the laws of the game, your assessor is wrong, a penalty does not necessarilly incur a yellow card.

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Re: Does Roy Hodgson Owe Us An Apology?
« Reply #77 on: October 27, 2011, 04:01:14 PM »
Gabby would have controlled the ball and scored, so if he's taken down its denying a goalscoring opportunity, red card

It might not be a law but its said to do it because it sells your decision.

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Re: Does Roy Hodgson Owe Us An Apology?
« Reply #78 on: October 27, 2011, 05:54:12 PM »
Yes.
Will we get one? - No.

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Re: Does Roy Hodgson Owe Us An Apology?
« Reply #79 on: October 27, 2011, 06:54:39 PM »
Gabby had got to the ball and pushed it forward over the Foster. Foster  fouled him as he tried to clear him. Defender at this stage was ahead of Gabby and would have had an advantage getting to the ball first. So Foster was not last man at this stage so no red card was required. Yellow is debatable.  That is how I saw it from Witton End Upper.
and oh yes Roy Hodgson is as blind as they come.

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Re: Does Roy Hodgson Owe Us An Apology?
« Reply #80 on: October 27, 2011, 08:03:54 PM »
So Foster was not last man at this stage so no red card was required
*bashes head against wall*

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Re: Does Roy Hodgson Owe Us An Apology?
« Reply #81 on: October 28, 2011, 12:20:00 AM »
Gabby would have controlled the ball and scored, so if he's taken down its denying a goalscoring opportunity, red card


No, Gabby 'might' have controlled the ball and scored, but his touch was taking the ball away from the goal and the defender to the left of him would have gone straight on and attempted to put a tackle in, therefore no definite clear goalscoring opportunity.

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Re: Does Roy Hodgson Owe Us An Apology?
« Reply #82 on: October 28, 2011, 01:04:03 PM »
He let himself down as soon as he took the job at that shit hole.

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Re: Does Roy Hodgson Owe Us An Apology?
« Reply #83 on: October 28, 2011, 04:34:13 PM »
He doesn't owe "us" an apology but he definitely owes Herd one after his comments in public.

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Re: Does Roy Hodgson Owe Us An Apology?
« Reply #84 on: October 29, 2011, 11:59:23 AM »
I don't know if he owes us an apology or not, but we should have gone and got Hodgson in the Summer.

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Re: Does Roy Hodgson Owe Us An Apology?
« Reply #85 on: October 29, 2011, 12:51:30 PM »
He just said on Football Focus he's glad the red card decision has been put right. I don't care whether he apologises or not really - it's a bit melodramatic to demand one.

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Re: Does Roy Hodgson Owe Us An Apology?
« Reply #86 on: October 29, 2011, 05:44:59 PM »
What goes around, comes around, Woy. Dodgy penalty decision from the linesman? Never.

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Re: Does Roy Hodgson Owe Us An Apology?
« Reply #87 on: October 29, 2011, 05:57:04 PM »
He just said on Football Focus he's glad the red card decision has been put right.
That'll do Roy and as compensation we'll have a dodgy pen to Liverpool in the first ten minutes.

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Re: Does Roy Hodgson Owe Us An Apology?
« Reply #88 on: October 30, 2011, 06:59:19 PM »
I see Hodgson was bemoaning the penalty decision against the Albion yesterday.

What goes around, comes around. Woy

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Re: Does Roy Hodgson Owe Us An Apology?
« Reply #89 on: October 30, 2011, 10:39:03 PM »
Listening to 6-0-6 earlier tonight [not having seen the Boggies highlights against Liverpool yesterday, so neither here nor there knowledge about what happened] an anti Liverpool caller got very short shrift from Alan Green. Interesting radio.

 


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