Aston Villa v Tesco Bags Post-Match Thread

[Fin Feds Dad]

Like the linesman, Mark, you got it wrong. The cheating Albion bastard conned you too.

Chris, I'm not saying it was a foul, but from my view Herds leg looked like it stamped / kicked.

I can understand why the linesman gave it, from what I saw I would have.

That's not to say it was a good decision, as I have said it's all about perspective.

And his perspective , was blocked by the albion player on the ground - therefore, he did not have a clear view, and could not be 100% sure what went on. Like he didn't see the albion player punching Herd in the back in the minutes immediately before.

[saunders_heroes]

I haven't seen us play so badly at home in years. Lerner's given up on Villa and has torn the heart out of the team. What he's done is a fuckin disgrace. If Ellis had done this he'd be hung drawn and quartered by now.

[saunders_heroes]

Like the linesman, Mark, you got it wrong. The cheating Albion bastard conned you too.

Chris, I'm not saying it was a foul, but from my view Herds leg looked like it stamped / kicked.

I can understand why the linesman gave it, from what I saw I would have.

That's not to say it was a good decision, as I have said it's all about perspective.

It was six of one half dozen of the other. This kind of thing goes on in most games and it's ignored by practically every Ref until yesterday. An absolute farce of a decision.

[Clampy]

The sad thing about yesterday (apart from Phil Dowd still managing to pass himself off as a professional referee) was sitting there knowing that we would'nt come back once we went behind. A Fergie or Redknapp team would have got something out of that game.

I like McCleish and i wan't him to suceed but playing Heskey in centre midfield was just piss poor management.

[john2710]

Feel so sorry for Herd, the lad was playing really well, with the footage showing that he hasn't done anything wrong will Villa appeal and get the 3 match ban removed?

I think they'll wait until the refs match report before making any appeal. Don't be surprised if Dowd states that he didn't see Hutton's tackle clearly and that having seen replays he would have given him a red card if he had seen it. Nothing would surprise me with that twat.

[Gaztonniller]

Shit. Unfortunately, we have to get used to it.

This sums up the general situation plain and precisely.

[eastie]

I haven't seen us play so badly at home in years. Lerner's given up on Villa and has torn the heart out of the team. What he's done is a fuckin disgrace. If Ellis had done this he'd be hung drawn and quartered by now.

Hard to disagree and i'm surprised randy hasnt copped for more flak in recent months.

[john e]

one of the saddest things about yesterday is that pat Herd was sent of after starting really well,
 he might well have gone on to have a good game and given AM something to think about with his team selections in the future.
also Villa fans were begining to see something in him, and growing in confidence about his ability. i know this is all ifs and buts, but you cant impress sitting in the changing room, especially when you dont get that many chances

with the sending off it just puts that negative spin on things, i hope it doesnt hamper his development, i have high hopes for the lad.

[saunders_heroes]

The sad thing about yesterday (apart from Phil Dowd still managing to pass himself off as a professional referee) was sitting there knowing that we would'nt come back once we went behind. A Fergie or Redknapp team would have got something out of that game.

I like McCleish and i wan't him to suceed but playing Heskey in centre midfield was just piss poor management.

But Heskey was just a sub. The damage was done by the time he came on. Bannan contributed nothing to the game other than his usual sloppy passes, but he never gets criticised.

[Clampy]

The sad thing about yesterday (apart from Phil Dowd still managing to pass himself off as a professional referee) was sitting there knowing that we would'nt come back once we went behind. A Fergie or Redknapp team would have got something out of that game.

I like McCleish and i wan't him to suceed but playing Heskey in centre midfield was just piss poor management.

But Heskey was just a sub. The damage was done by the time he came on. Bannan contributed nothing to the game other than his usual sloppy passes, but he never gets criticised.

What difference does it make if he was just a sub? You don't play a centre forward in centre midfield, it did'nt make any sense. Ireland would probably have been a better choice.

[barrysleftfoot]

  Absolute joke of a decision.And i think that is Herds position, perserve with him there.

  What worried me was that we really missed his energy and urgency in midfield after.No pace, no aggression, no desire.Not sure what the point of bringing Heskey or Albrighton was tbh.

  We don't work hard enough off the ball, and i thought bringing Collins back for Clark was a mistake, and so it proved, we gave the ball away far too much.

  Positives were again Barry Bannan, we are becoming far too reliant on him, not sure we will see the best of him with the players at our disposale.For me if you play Bannan you must play Ireland, as they seem to play well together.
  Thought we missed Hutton when he went off, his bursts down the line means we can move Bannan inside, where he is more dangerous.

 Thought Dunne and Warnock were ok.

 What worried me yday was that McL did'nt seem to know what to do.Down to 10 men i would have brought off N'Zog and brought Clark on, and then if necc bring Ireland on later.

 A word about N'Zog, give him some decent passes, and move for him and he will be ok.Gabby needs to improve his movement off the ball as well if he wants to get better.

[Dave Cooper please]

Probably going over old ground (not read the whole thread, life's too short), but most teams react to adversity and oing down to ten men by showing some character and fight, we, with the honourable exception of Barry Banana, rolled over and let West Brom (fucking West Brom for fucks sake) tickle our parts. Absolutely pathetic.
 Yes the sending off was bollocks, and yes we may have lost the game anyway, but to not even look like they wanted to battle for the cause is unforgivable. I spent most of the second half laughing with a couple of blokes behind me, because if we didn't take the piss out of the pathetic bunch of losers we'd have been smashing up the Witton Lane End.
 

[Dave Cooper please]

Bannan contributed nothing to the game other than his usual sloppy passes, but he never gets criticised.

Banana may not be good enough but at least he looks like we wants it, for that he gets cut a heck of a lot of slack from me.

[Lambert and Payne]

We just never looked like we were going to score, the attacking play was shite and we cannot defend corners. Petrov gets vertigo when he reaches the half way line really pisses me off. I hate seeing the ball constantly going back whenever it touches his feet. Collins gets it forward, to the head off another defender or giving the opposition a throw in. We cant defend corners, tchyio (however you spell it) tore us to absolute shreds
We were abysmal, the red card was dismal, their offside goal decision was dismal, hutton should of walked, foster should have at the very least got booked. The officiating was shocking. It might have been different had Herd not walked but i think we were awful

Anyone else see it kick off outside the north stand after?

[Walmley_Villa]

I must confess to not enjoying going to VP anymore. We look a very limited team with its heart ripped out over the past 2 years. More fool me for parting with £900 for 3 ST's.
It will be a very long winter unless we can pick up at least 6 points from the next three games.