Aston Villa v Tesco Bags Post-Match Thread

[KRS]

I remember saying in the 'Villa idiosyncrasies' thread that i've always thought that he runs like a girl. At least i'm not the only one who has noticed, I was being to wonder if it was just me!

Absolutely not, I've been saying it for ages, he's the campest player we've had for a long time.

Nah Daniel Johnson runs more like a girl than Carlos. The long dreads dont help either.

[PeterWithesShin]

I remember saying in the 'Villa idiosyncrasies' thread that i've always thought that he runs like a girl. At least i'm not the only one who has noticed, I was being to wonder if it was just me!

Absolutely not, I've been saying it for ages, he's the campest player we've had for a long time.

Nah Daniel Johnson runs more like a girl than Carlos. The long dreads dont help either.

I'm pretty sure he and some of the other younger players often sit near me in the Upper Trinity.

[KRS]

Well if you see a bloke with long dreads running like a girl to get his pie at half time...its probably Daniel Johnson.

[PeterWithesShin]

Well if you see a bloke with long dreads running like a girl to get his pie at half time...its probably Daniel Johnson.

I'm 99% it his him and some of the other youth players. The only reason i'm not 100% is because they are usually in front of me so I rarely see their faces, especially as they spend most of the match playing games on their phones.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

From the TV I would agree but he did appear to stamp / kick from my viewing position.

Had I had been the linesman with my view I would have done the same as he did.

But as with everything it's all about perspective

It's about being certain you've seen what you think you've seen, I'm in K block Holte end, I saw the foul on Herd, then the ball got cleared and I stopped watching, when I saw the linesman flagging I thought at first it was for the foul on Herd. When the penalty was awarded I thought something must have happened after the foul, watching MOTD, I see nothing did happen, the linesman needs to be 100% certain, he guessed, it was a figment of his imagination, the same linesman also didn't see the clear foul on Herd nor the swing from Olsen, disgusting.

Spot on Tony!
Why didn't the linesman wave his flag when Olsson seemed to thump Herd on the shoulder? Or when he was holding Herd's foot?
I think he could see that Dowd was already having a mare and decided to help him out - deflect the attention sort of.
Also - I wonder how Hanson would've reacted if it had happened to his beloved Reds...

I'm rambling....time for bed!

[olaftab]

McLeish's view:

"The sending-off cost us severely - no doubt about it. The kid had started the game really well and we were looking good at that point. In the pictures I have seen it looked as if Chris was extricating his foot from Jonas Olsson's grasp and Olsson didn't react to it. If you'd been stamped on, you'd expect the player to complain."

He would have done if he was  South American like Nunez the other night!This man our Manager needs to look at his own input post sending off not moan about it, Shit happens  it's how you get out of it makes the man and the team.

Bollocks.

You cannot gloss over a decision such as sending off. We were the better side, winning and looking comfortable. We then go down to ten men and lose a game after suddenly looking poor.

Its not hard to grasp what the critical element in that equation was is it.

Were we the better side? I don't think we were.
Yes sending off changed how the rest of the match was going to be played out. The issue is that McLeish  and our team were useless in dealing with it. As soon as pen was missed Bent should have been off with Clark on to play in CM. Bent is  only good and useful if you are dominating a match. He is as effective as me in the Witton End Upper if we are not making chances.  Than at HT   he should have taken off  N'Zogbia and replaced  him with Albrighton to add pace for  chasing back ability and pace  for any counter attacks. 
10 men do not have to be as inept and useless as we were today. Remember Albion came back from 1 down and beat us  last season with ten men.

[olaftab]

Am I the only person who can't see a midfielder in Ivanhoe for the life of me?

No you and rest of the footballing world  except of course Mcleish.

[Tony]

I remember saying in the 'Villa idiosyncrasies' thread that i've always thought that he runs like a girl. At least i'm not the only one who has noticed, I was being to wonder if it was just me!

Absolutely not, I've been saying it for ages, he's the campest player we've had for a long time.

So have I, he's the most camp defender I've ever seen in my life.

[hawkeye]

I would like to point out that i'm not defending Hutton, and wouldn't have argued if he had been red carded, am just curious where other posters see the line between the scenario I posed.

I dont think you can argue that the Hutton chalenge was anything other than a sending off offence, I would ban him for longer
a. Because that sort of challenge should be given the most harshest treatment and
b, Because i hope it is a long time before I see him playing for us again.

[jonzy85]

Havent read much of the thread but I imagine it is dominated by negativity and dismay about the performance once we were down to 10 men and confusion over the sending off (all warranted) so I wont add to it.

But dare I exude some positivity?

I was encouraged by the team put out and thought we started the game very well. When we went 1-0 up I couldnt see anything but a Villa win, especially with Long off. I was impressed with Herd early on and the more I see of Bannan the more I think he is the real deal.

I just hope McLeish gives that starting team a good run, because I think we could do well with it. That is until Bannan and Herd begin to put in the performances where Liverpool or Man C become interested and the whole depressing cycle begins again.

And last point, 2nd half was awful, but can we really blame McLeish? As soon as that red card was given it was just a matter of time before Heskey wold come on. Not all AMC's fault, our bench wasnt exactly brimming with options, not McLeish's fault, cheers Randy

[taylorsworkrate]

I just hope McLeish gives that starting team a good run, because I think we could do well with it.

I don't think Hutton or N'Zogbia have done anywhere near enough to warrant continued selection.

With the limited resources i'd go:

Given

Warnock
Dunne
Collins
Cuellar

Petrov
Jenas

Bannan
Ireland

Gabby
Bent

Our best football this season has come with Bannan and Ireland in the team.  I was highly suprised Ireland didn't play today.

[Stu]

They have fucked up so bad and they don't even realise it. They have led me not to give a shit about the club anymore. I honestly don't care anymore.

I care. I care and it hurts.

[Stu]

when we needed a bit of fight and battling unity, it wasnt there, nor was any quality which is even more worrying

Ans when you consider who is in charge, it makes you worry at what might happen. McLeish has proved on two occasions that he doesn't know how to turn a slide around. Last season, when the blues needed something at Spurs, they didn't even put up a fight. I'm a bit worried about this, if the confidence goes from the players, McLeish won't be able to turn it around, as has already been proven more than once.

[mrfuse]

Just back from the ground after being on the piss and what the fuck how the fucking hell can you not defend Herd!

I work for the BBC in the midlands but im ashamed the way radio WM tried too justify herd getting a red card "the intent was their" what absolute fucking bollocks you might as well not bother playing if the intent was their and i might as well go to Prison for numerous intentional things!

[Stu]

Has Martin Laursen got his coaching badges yet? He'd be the ideal rescue man when Mcleish goes in the new year.

I'm fucking packing it in. Good night.