Aston Villa v Tesco Bags Post-Match Thread

[Tony]

Hutton really is the most brainless player we've had for a long time. He always seems to be teetering on the edge of doing something stupid, and that tackle today was truly idiotic.

If you go in with both feet off the ground, you're as good as off these days.

He won the ball with one foot, that's why he wasn't sent off, you are allowed to have both feet off the ground and win tackles, it's going in with both feet studs showing that gets you sent off, some refs would have viewed the Hutton tackle as reckless and sent him off anyway, but it's not just about having your feet off the ground.

[dave.woodhall]

I posted this in the match thread, can't think of anything else to put.
 
Randy you have proper fucked it up.  Allowed MoN to spunk millions, picked a replacement who had heart problems then replaced him with a manager who relegated a team twice in 3 years.
What did you think was going to happen?

I would never take anger out on the owners but now i'm seeing they're at fault for a lot of shit that has happened recently.

They have fucked up so bad and they don't even realise it. They have led me not to give a shit about the club anymore. I honestly don't care anymore. I'm only on here just to look at how far we've fallen in just one year.

Atleast I'll hopefully get to watch my Ravens rape the Cleveland Browns in a few weeks. That will atleast make me smile.

P.S. Phil Dowd you're such a faggot.

Less of that, please.

[pauliewalnuts]

Hutton really is the most brainless player we've had for a long time. He always seems to be teetering on the edge of doing something stupid, and that tackle today was truly idiotic.

If you go in with both feet off the ground, you're as good as off these days.

He does seem an accident waiting to happen. I hope Carlos gets a run of games at RB. Which is kind of weird considering I didn't like him playing there under MON. Then again, i'd rather have NRC/Gardner there than Hutton right now.

It was good to see Cuellar back, but I did feel a little nostalgic twang the first time he crossed the ball in directly into the keeper's hands.

[Greg N'Ash]

Hutton's was a red, but the fact it wasn't given doesn't mean that Herd being sent off somehow evens it up. What's worse for Herd is that he's a young guy trying to make a career and this could potentially have a big effect. The chances are it'll be rescinded, but if it isn't it could be terrible for his Villa career.

Strikes me he's got a bit more character about him than to let that worry him. If its not rescinded i'd be gobsmacked.  No-one apart from the linesman seems to have seen anything.

[MarkM]

As I have said I was watching the Herd incident as it happened, my view of it was that Herd did appear to stamp / kick back.

My view was from behind the linesman (upper Trinity) and my first reaction was it was a stamp and if seen he would get sent off.

Just because that's how it looked from my position doesn't make it so, we can criticise the linesman but my opinion at the time was the same as the linesman.

From the TV angle it's hard to see anything, but from my view I clearly saw Herds leg come down like a stamp. Wether he was just simply bringing it down to move away it is difficult to tell, but.... My personal view is that he did or tried to stamp / kick back

Just my view

[PeterWithesShin]

Hutton really is the most brainless player we've had for a long time. He always seems to be teetering on the edge of doing something stupid, and that tackle today was truly idiotic.

If you go in with both feet off the ground, you're as good as off these days.

He does seem an accident waiting to happen. I hope Carlos gets a run of games at RB. Which is kind of weird considering I didn't like him playing there under MON. Then again, i'd rather have NRC/Gardner there than Hutton right now.

It was good to see Cuellar back, but I did feel a little nostalgic twang the first time he crossed the ball in directly into the keeper's hands.

Whenever he ventures up the wing and crosses I do tend to close my eyes as he starts to swing his boot at the ball and hope he somehow finds a Villa player. I think Carlos does the same.

[pauliewalnuts]

Hutton really is the most brainless player we've had for a long time. He always seems to be teetering on the edge of doing something stupid, and that tackle today was truly idiotic.

If you go in with both feet off the ground, you're as good as off these days.

He does seem an accident waiting to happen. I hope Carlos gets a run of games at RB. Which is kind of weird considering I didn't like him playing there under MON. Then again, i'd rather have NRC/Gardner there than Hutton right now.

It was good to see Cuellar back, but I did feel a little nostalgic twang the first time he crossed the ball in directly into the keeper's hands.

Whenever he ventures up the wing and crosses I do tend to close my eyes as he starts to swing his boot at the ball and hope he somehow finds a Villa player. I think Carlos does the same.

I love the way he runs, too.

It's a sort of camp, sashaying sort of run, with his arms in front and his hands at 90 degrees.

He also looks a bit like a U Boat commander with that beard. Nothing camp about that, mind.

[Greg N'Ash]

As I have said I was watching the Herd incident as it happened, my view of it was that Herd did appear to stamp / kick back.

My view was from behind the linesman (upper Trinity) and my first reaction was it was a stamp and if seen he would get sent off.

Just because that's how it looked from my position doesn't make it so, we can criticise the linesman but my opinion at the time was the same as the linesman.

From the TV angle it's hard to see anything, but from my view I clearly saw Herds leg come down like a stamp. Wether he was just simply bringing it down to move away it is difficult to tell, but.... My personal view is that he did or tried to stamp / kick back

Just my view

eh? it was clear as day on the tv replay. there was nowt there. At all. Unless Herd's got a third leg hidden from view to all but the linesman and the upper trinity he didn't stamp on anyone.

[PeterWithesShin]

Hutton really is the most brainless player we've had for a long time. He always seems to be teetering on the edge of doing something stupid, and that tackle today was truly idiotic.

If you go in with both feet off the ground, you're as good as off these days.

He does seem an accident waiting to happen. I hope Carlos gets a run of games at RB. Which is kind of weird considering I didn't like him playing there under MON. Then again, i'd rather have NRC/Gardner there than Hutton right now.

It was good to see Cuellar back, but I did feel a little nostalgic twang the first time he crossed the ball in directly into the keeper's hands.

Whenever he ventures up the wing and crosses I do tend to close my eyes as he starts to swing his boot at the ball and hope he somehow finds a Villa player. I think Carlos does the same.

I love the way he runs, too.

It's a sort of camp, sashaying sort of run, with his arms in front and his hands at 90 degrees.

He also looks a bit like a U Boat commander with that beard. Nothing camp about that, mind.

I remember saying in the 'Villa idiosyncrasies' thread that i've always thought that he runs like a girl. At least i'm not the only one who has noticed, I was being to wonder if it was just me!

[MarkM]

From the TV I would agree but he did appear to stamp / kick from my viewing position.

Had I had been the linesman with my view I would have done the same as he did.

But as with everything it's all about perspective

[Phil from the upper holte]

Its not important if you liked houllier or not what you can't deny is that he saw the squad is rotten and it is. AF couldn't get shit out of this bunch of clowns.

No movement no creativity no shots again. We couldn't pass water. Already at the bottom of the stats board goin to be a long hard winter. The sending off had an effect but no shots on target is poor. we need to wake the hell up.

[pauliewalnuts]

I remember saying in the 'Villa idiosyncrasies' thread that i've always thought that he runs like a girl. At least i'm not the only one who has noticed, I was being to wonder if it was just me!

Absolutely not, I've been saying it for ages, he's the campest player we've had for a long time.

[Phil from the upper holte]

Albion could have scored 5 today. Worrying

[Tony]

From the TV I would agree but he did appear to stamp / kick from my viewing position.

Had I had been the linesman with my view I would have done the same as he did.

But as with everything it's all about perspective

It's about being certain you've seen what you think you've seen, I'm in K block Holte end, I saw the foul on Herd, then the ball got cleared and I stopped watching, when I saw the linesman flagging I thought at first it was for the foul on Herd. When the penalty was awarded I thought something must have happened after the foul, watching MOTD, I see nothing did happen, the linesman needs to be 100% certain, he guessed, it was a figment of his imagination, the same linesman also didn't see the clear foul on Herd nor the swing from Olsen, disgusting.

[john2710]

Herd's red card - never a sending off nor a foul. Saw nothing at the game or on the replays to show that it was anything but a tangle at most. For Woy to claim it was a stamp, after seeing the replays is outrageous. I think Dowd asked the linesman to watch the 2 players when the free kick came in & he obliged by making the decision that changed the game.

As for Hutton, at the game it looked a good, but strong tackle. The replay when seen in slow motion, shows what could be seen as a reckless follow through. I think it was a borderline decision which could be interpreted either way, he didn't jump in with his studs & turns away after winning the ball but he does catch Long high. As for Woy's claim that Long could have had 2 broken legs - fuck off.