Aston Villa v Tesco Bags Post-Match Thread

[Whiney MacWhineface]

I can't remember when I felt so outright angry after a game. Such a shit sending off decision, exacerbated by McLeish not putting Clark on straight away, which may well have obviated the need to put Heskey on to achieve squat, though I can follow a line of logic that says we keep our ball-players on to keep possesion better - up to a point.

I am also angry at the situation McLeish has been put in, in the first place.

Some few players come out with credit, particularly Bannan who can't tackle to save his life, but tried hard to make it look like he might.

[Greg N'Ash]

Absolute total bobbins. Sending off doesn't come into it as Hutton should have gone anyway.  With such a limited manager in charge and the rotten gutless individuals in our squad, its gonna be a long winter.

Time to panic

[BedsVillain]

It's just a Villa fan's luck that the year we bag an £18m/20 goals a season striker, we stitch ourselves up by hiring a feckin' useless, clod-hopper hoofball, clueless twat of a manager, with the creative flair of a week old skidmark.

What makes it worse is the fact that said clueless twat, who's supposed to be Mr Defensive, hasn't got a fucking scooby how to get his team to defend either. Which begs the question what's the fucking point of Alex Mcleish?

Bring back Gary McAllister I say!!

[SashasGrandad]

What we badly need is a leader on the pitch. Herd was doing well but tending to get too excited and made a few rash challenges. Did any senior Villa player have a word? NO. How many players around Chris Herd are experienced premier league players and internationals? Virtually all of them. Did any of them have a word NO.

When the ref called Olsen and Herd over before the free kick, where was the Villa Captain? Missing. Did one of the vastly expereinced Villa defenders use their initiative and take over looking after Olsen? NO.

Phil Dowd - has questionable parentage and appears to hate the Villa but where was our LEADERS? NOWHERE.

We don't need world class, expensive players in the transfer window. We need an average player who can LEAD ON THE PITCH.

Then we might have a chance.

Rant over.

[john2710]

Up until the sending off it was even, once down to 10 we didn't have the players on the pitch to cope with being a man down and AM didn't react to it.  I've never seen a team of 10 men look like a team of 8.

Didn't see the sending off incident but Herd was close to the mark on a couple of occasions beforehand. Didn't see any appeal from Olsen, which says everything. Not Dowd's fault for the penalty / sending off, it was clearly a decision by the linesman.

At the game I didn't see any problem with Hutton's tackle, looked very firm, but certainly nothing illegal.

Our midfield is simply not good enough for the Premier League. 

[jembob]

Dreadful display and as brainless as any I've seen at VP over the past few seasons. Some teams are galvanised by a sending off but we just seemed to lose any idea of how to play football. It's almost as if they are carrying on where Houllier left off. Really, really poor.

[swiss1968]

Dowd usless fat chunt,Mcleish looking more like a useless chunt .10 men maybe but he oylbion took the piss that's how bad we were today.

[Handsworth Wood Villa]

P.S. Phil Dowd you're such a faggot.

And if you don't cut out the homophobic language you can find another message board to post on.

You gonna ban anyone that will use offensive insults the ref? lol

No, I'm going to ban people who use homophobic abuse. Just as I would ban people for using racist abuse.

So stop it.

I don't think he is guilty of homophobic abuse...

He insulted Phil Dowd.

He did not insult any homosexual people.

[Tony]

The Hutton challenge was extremely heavy, he clearly wins the ball and is there well before Long, which is why it bounced off Long and out for a throw but he did seem to go in with more force than he needed.

[TheSandman]

P.S. Phil Dowd you're such a faggot.

And if you don't cut out the homophobic language you can find another message board to post on.

You gonna ban anyone that will use offensive insults the ref? lol

No, I'm going to ban people who use homophobic abuse. Just as I would ban people for using racist abuse.

So stop it.

I don't think he is guilty of homophobic abuse...

He insulted Phil Dowd.

He did not insult any homosexual people.

He insulted them by likening a fat, useless c*** of a ref to them.

[Tony]

Up until the sending off it was even, once down to 10 we didn't have the players on the pitch to cope with being a man down and AM didn't react to it.  I've never seen a team of 10 men look like a team of 8.

Good point, I was complaining at one stage that we were only down to ten men, Albion were getting into situations where they had two or three men spare.

[Holtenderinthesky]

Sending off doesn't come into it

Hmmm.  We should somehow mark the occasion of being the first team to ever go from a winning position to losing the game after a red card that had no bearing on the outcome.  Perhaps we should start our next game with 9 players, seeing as though it will make no difference having a numerical disadvantage.........

[caster troy]

When Mcleish came in I predicted poor results, poor football and poor attendances... hate to say I told you so Randy. I guess there are thousands of other Villa fans now thinking along similar lines. Dreadful today and overall a very poor start to the season. Once we get hammered by Liverpool, Chelsea and Man Utd we will really be in trouble.

I remain convinced we'll be in the bottom three at Xmas.

Has Martin Laursen got his coaching badges yet? He'd be the ideal rescue man when Mcleish goes in the new year.

[Ads]

Up until the sending off it was even, once down to 10 we didn't have the players on the pitch to cope with being a man down and AM didn't react to it.  I've never seen a team of 10 men look like a team of 8.

Good point, I was complaining at one stage that we were only down to ten men, Albion were getting into situations where they had two or three men spare.

They went three at the back and we struggled to get hold of the ball.

All this crap about "well Hutton should have walked so...", when Herd was part of the reason we'd started the better side and was controlling the game. You looked at the bench and there wasn't a midfielder worth a punt amongst them.

[Des Little]

Am I the only person who can't see a midfielder in Ivanhoe for the life of me?