Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Post-Match Thread

[Greg N'Ash]

give AM 80m to spend and the same in wages i'm sure he'll get a few decent players. Hell give Barry Fry that and the law of averages he'd sign one or two good ones out of the 100 plus. Bottom line is AM's budget has been minus 15m and probably the same in wages. MON couldn't have signed Young, milner or anyone else in those circumstances

Greg:

80ML, That maybe the case, it may be a disaster and AM may simply not be able to attract or convince the right players to come, do you seriously believe that only us and noses know about the kind of negative football that AM is known to produce and that we are now experiencing first hand.

One thing that is a fact MON  spent 80ML and we had some good times.......yes, that's is what its all about as a fan, don't you remember that night on the eve of the League Cup final as we all waited with great excitement to meet Manchester Utd, don't know about you mate but I want to see Gabby and lads there again, I want to see us in europe again, I want to see Alex Ferguson face again after we take 3 pts of him and watch Wenger crying into his beer. Can't see that anytime soon.

You can't compare the financial circumstances AM is working under to MON's time. DOL wanted to sign Milner and couldn't. bottom line is AM couldn't have signed a Young, Milner or Downing even if he wanted to. He probably could even afford a Harewood

Greg: I'm not comparing, what I'm saying is what AM would do with 80ML is hypothetical, we do know what MON did with it and on the whole I thought it was a pretty good 4 season's didn't you.

80m and the same in wages for 6th? In comparison to what his predecessors did with a fraction of the money?


NAH

[BC54 VFC]

What a waste of time and money; should have gone to the Emirates!

[Villanation]

give AM 80m to spend and the same in wages i'm sure he'll get a few decent players. Hell give Barry Fry that and the law of averages he'd sign one or two good ones out of the 100 plus. Bottom line is AM's budget has been minus 15m and probably the same in wages. MON couldn't have signed Young, milner or anyone else in those circumstances

Greg:

80ML, That maybe the case, it may be a disaster and AM may simply not be able to attract or convince the right players to come, do you seriously believe that only us and noses know about the kind of negative football that AM is known to produce and that we are now experiencing first hand.

One thing that is a fact MON  spent 80ML and we had some good times.......yes, that's is what its all about as a fan, don't you remember that night on the eve of the League Cup final as we all waited with great excitement to meet Manchester Utd, don't know about you mate but I want to see Gabby and lads there again, I want to see us in europe again, I want to see Alex Ferguson face again after we take 3 pts of him and watch Wenger crying into his beer. Can't see that anytime soon.

You can't compare the financial circumstances AM is working under to MON's time. DOL wanted to sign Milner and couldn't. bottom line is AM couldn't have signed a Young, Milner or Downing even if he wanted to. He probably could even afford a Harewood

Greg: I'm not comparing, what I'm saying is what AM would do with 80ML is hypothetical, we do know what MON did with it and on the whole I thought it was a pretty good 4 season's didn't you.

80m and the same in wages for 6th? In comparison to what his predecessors did with a fraction of the money?


NAH

Fair enough.

[BC54 VFC]

Yeah, but you could park your car under a tree that didn't have a pigeon's nest

I may be being thick here but do pigeons make nests?  I mean, I guess they must do but I can't remember ever seeing one.  Is it like an empty polystyrene carton with some old bits of kebab in?  I've seen pigeons in those.  And chip cones.  Is it like a chip cone?

http://www.pigeonmania.com/pigeon-nests/

[Holte End Stylist]

JUST GOT HOME FROM THE MATCH.........IT WAS SHITE , NO RUNNING FROM MIDFIELD NO PASSION NO FUCK ALL...........SHITE

[AV82EC]

Well after travelling down and back to manchester at breakneck speed I wish I hadn't bothered.  Utter utter Blues.

[Phil from the upper holte]

86 mins to have a shot, again I don't give a flying fuck that he managed the inbreds over the way. The football was dire and we all said it would be the same and it is, already I'm fed up! Fuck knows why I'm going to QPR.

why can't we play with two wingers at the same time, why can't we start with two up front? Why are we already hoofing the ball from back to front, not just today either? Were already drawing nearly all our Fuckin games? Negative tactics 10 men behind the ball. Why oh why did we sign up for this?

[Gareth]

That was utterly pathetic, granted the Bolton 'reserves' given recent results had incentive to perform but we were inept.

Biggest worry for me was that we appeared to have one way - defenders hoof it towards Gabby & whether he wins the ball or not the midfielders are miles away to compete for the 2nd ball....repeat until the final whistle goes! 

Whilst the likes of Ireland / Hutton & Warnock were hopeless the question to the manager would be - why only make one substitution??  no Plan B and no attempt to change anything....

Message to AM - you dont get a point for trying to draw a cup tie!!! Grrrr

[Macho Man Randy Savage]

What a poor result.

[olaftab]

Very bad night for Aston Villa football club and worrying time ahead...

[Summers]

Find it weird Ireland is being singled out on a night he looked like the only one with a clue when in possession. He also tracked back well, put himself about and swept up.

He did completely tail off through the second half, though.

I, finally, see the light about Fonz. Some of you are right, not good enough.

[ROBBO]

It's very clear how we finished up with AM as manager now, who else would have taken the Villa job under the spending restraints he's under. We bought Bent last January when the owner was worried we might be relegated pure and simple, after selling our two best players our right back and our most effective midfielder Lerner thinks we can survive this season? what half decent player would want to play for us now? we have gone from being a couple of players short off a top four spot to easybeats in two seasons. As some have pointed out we havn't even played a decent side yet. I don't really balieve money is the problem i think it's more the ineptitude of those at the top.

[Pete Green]

What was all the bloody back-passing about. Pissing around in out own half and not getting forward.

Then Given to Collins, Collins to Given, Given to Collins, Collins back to Given, screams of fans to get the ball up field, Given long kick out to...... nobody.

Shite. I dragged my family to that and I've been struggling for work lately and could just about afford a treat for them. I apologised to them when we got home.

[Stu]

Didn't go in the end - went to the pub instead, thank fuck.

What was the Bolton team? I ask because this quote from McLeish: "In the second half Bolton scored we then chased the game a wee bit and their experience picked us off" seems to suggest that they had a strong side out. I thought Coyle made 9 changes to the Bolton side tonight and we only made 3?

And what about our experience? Some of this side played in the final a while back for gods sake.

[Dazvillain]

With  Randy having done so many great things on and off the field, i think this just seems to be a bit of a financial knee jerk reaction in savings on wages. McLeish is in a no lose situation, he's working with £4 million less wage bill with 16 squad players left and only 4 in, exactly what he was aked to do.
Unfortunately in games like tonight there is no depth of squad to have a plan B i'm afraid
Seems we just got to ride the season out and survive, and this is before we get suspensions on top of a couple of injuries.