Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Post-Match Thread

[steamer]

some one posted sbout the blue noses copying the Manchester F.C song, it could be true for us, I think it was some thing like, " we dont care about Randy Lerner, he dont care about us, all we care about is AVFC"

Sorry about bringing the scum into this.

PLayers, managers and Chairmen will come and go. We will always be here.
Being Philosophical does not make it any easier and I am at a loss to see how things will change in the short term.

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

Yeah, but you could park your car under a tree that didn't have a pigeon's nest

I may be being thick here but do pigeons make nests?  I mean, I guess they must do but I can't remember ever seeing one.  Is it like an empty polystyrene carton with some old bits of kebab in?  I've seen pigeons in those.  And chip cones.  Is it like a chip cone?

[passport1]

I'm just wondering when MON or Houlier won't be blamed for our current predicament.

The only constant is Lerner.

[andyh]

yes Lerner and the board have fucked us over but AM cannot be immune to criticism.
The football played is dire beyond belief, with no fluency or threat.
Players out of position, not good enough and lightweight.
86 minutes till we had an effort on goal -from our bloody centre half, AGAINST BOLTONS RESERVES.

What did he say at half time to gee up the troops, to motivate them and to change things around.
I have no idea because we were actually worse second half than the first.

We are morphing into that lot down the road. 

[mrfuse]

Well, I've just finished a four mile run and I feel bloody fantastic, and the missus is happy that Bolton won.  I'm going to piss about on Photoshop with some of the photos I took earlier, and the football can go roger itself up the arse.

Did you run round the island 4 times then?

Arf!  You do know that all the raw sewage from here gets pumped straight out to sea in your exact direction, right?!

Yes it came out of the villa changing room at 7:45pm tonight

[Greg N'Ash]

Well said Villanation. You consistantly talk sense fella. Greg, I think I'm yet to see a thread that you post in, in which you don't bring up MON. You are the only person to do this.

nowt to do with blaming MON in this instance. look at our squad - it consists almost entirely of MON's mistakes. His few successes were sold last summer and this.

[villa `cross the mersey]

Well, I've just finished a four mile run and I feel bloody fantastic, and the missus is happy that Bolton won.  I'm going to piss about on Photoshop with some of the photos I took earlier, and the football can go roger itself up the arse.

Did you run round the island 4 times then?

Arf!  You do know that all the raw sewage from here gets pumped straight out to sea in your exact direction, right?!

The shit I can put up with - I`d be more concerned with the flourescent green water discharged in your general direction.
(Try reading that in the affected French accent of the knights in Monty Python and the Holy Grail)

[phantom limb]

Just got back, bloody hell that was shit. All of our players are growing increasingly incapable of passing to each other, with lots of loose balls and players glaring at each other because they don't know what's going on. Plan B: if in doubt, boot it really high at Barry Bannan so that the ball sails over his head every single FUCKING time.

In the last two games we've been dominated by two teams who are mediocre at best, and we didn't create anywhere near enough chances in either game. This does not bode well for the future and I am unhappy.

[MarkM]

Just got back home, thought I would look for our midfield here as it wasn't on the pitch tonight.

we were awful, no clues, no chances... Terrible

Not sure where to put the blame... Players, manager or all

Very depressed and frustrated, just glad it wasn't anyone decent as we would have got a spanking

[petegoldring]

Yeah, but you could park your car under a tree that didn't have a pigeon's nest

I may be being thick here but do pigeons make nests?  I mean, I guess they must do but I can't remember ever seeing one.  Is it like an empty polystyrene carton with some old bits of kebab in?  I've seen pigeons in those.  And chip cones.  Is it like a chip cone?

I think they nest in Beye's boots. Perfectly safe and cosy there.

[Summers]

I don't often post doom and gloom.. but that was fucking shit.

[Villanation]

you can't turn shit into gold and while it was a favourite pastime of MON is never worked. bottom line is all we've got left is MON's shit  Bent, Gabby and the kids. swap AM for ferguson and he couldn't turn our back 4 into anything more than average

Well you say that, the reality is under MON we finished consistently towards the top, challenged for Europe and appeared in cup finals.

Doesn't matter how we did that we did it, he assembled players like Young, Downing, Milner all now playing for top clubs...

It'll be many a moon before you see those days again.

Not saying this praising MON, but facts are facts, we where a force to be reckoned with and its all gone, we are a team now that is capable of going to QPR at the weekend and get beaten and badly.

but AM hasn't got that squad. he's got the shit minus the good players MON bought

Like I said earlier in the thread, AM new what he was getting into, he stands and falls by that, if he doubted he could handle that situation he should not have taken the job, and at the end of the day the only real difference to the squad after his appointment was that he lost Downing, have to say Downing should be replaceable and he went and paid how much for N'zogbia, other then that he has inherited Houlliers team which includes players like Bent and Makoun, most would say a player like Bent was a better option than Carew for example.

Villa do not have that bad a squad, some would say we now have a better keeper, it's all relative, what it actually comes down to is putting together a team that works and there is only 1 person that will do that. 

[passport1]

Well you say that, the reality is under MON we finished consistently towards the top, challenged for Europe and appeared in cup finals. end and gDoesn't matter how we did that we did it, he assembled players like Young, Downing, Milner all now playing for top clubs... It'll be many a moon before you see those days again.

Couldn't agree more and would add it will be many moons before I see a Villa team go to Old Trafford Or Anfield and take three points!

[CJ]

Just got back. That was absolutely fucking awful. 86 minutes before we get a shot on target - and that by a centre half. Our midfield is being dominated by average teams and our forwards are getting no service whatsoever.

I really genuinely now fear the R word (yes, I know this was a cup game but nevertheless...) because I just can't see where our goals will come from.

[ozzjim]

Anyone else praying Jenas gets fit and stays fit?

Oddly, Jenas, Delph AND Petrov all need to play for us to function better going forward I fear, as we need to get hold of the ball at least to get forward.