Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Post-Match Thread

[JJ-AV]

I like Randy, it's hard to get on his back, but ultimately I'm left thinking that his (and Faulkner's) lack of experience in football is still costing us.

The board (wrongly, IMO) put all their faith in MON and let him get on with the football side of things. Whatever MON is as a man, he was an above average manager. He's gone, and we're left without anyone with any authority within the club that has a clue.

[Bad English]

god help us.

First post and already asking for something. Tsk!

[west sussex villan]

Can we get James Collins Jnr back from Shrewsbury?

another one we let go

[PaulWinch again]

Tacklers for Sunday will have to be found from reserve defenders.  Yes that is what we will have to. 

And that tells you all you want to know about the board.

[Villanation]

All of this was certain when we read in the summer that Randy Lerner had flown to Corsica to talk to McLeish.   I could not believe it t the time that Alex McLeish was the best we could come up with and that the owner was intervening personally to make sure we got him at all costs.

I do not blame McLeish for the situation we find ourselves in any more than I blame the pigeons for shitting on my car.   I blame the board for not being able to deal with the departure of O'Neill calmly and constructively.   They appointed an old, sick man with nothing to prove when they should have bided their time and signed a young, healthy and ambitious one.   When the inevitable breakdown of Houllier's health occurred the board should have bided their time and signed a young, healthy ambitious manager.   Instead they lurched from blunder to blunder in their pursuit of somebody cheap until Lerner himself stepped in and flew to Corsica with ticks in his three boxes Is he available?  Will he be grateful?  Will he do as he is told?   That was when all this became inevitable.

I do not believe for one minute that David Moyes could not have been secured from Everton for a big enough offer bearing in mind their financial circumstances.

McLeish is McLeish we have to live with it.

This is a curious one. so if a pigeon shits on your car you don't blame the pigeon for shitting on your car  friggin love Aston Villa.

[JJ-AV]

"Unquestionably, Alex meets the criteria we set out at the beginning of our search which was based on proven Premier League experience, leadership, a hard-working ethic and, most importantly, a shared vision for Aston Villa.'

Faulkner, what is this shared vision - abject mediocrity?

There is no one inside Aston Villa in a position of authority that has any idea about football. So Randy and Faulkner went to Man Utd and asked Alex Ferguson what he thinks of his mate McLeish. He gave him a glowing reference and the rest is history.

I wonder if Fergie's opinion is partly why we don't have European Cup winning Rafa Benitez in charge right now.

[mrfuse]

Just got back from the Game paid £5 for my ticket.....I was robbed and Ireland can fuck off

That is what a mate said when I phoned him at the game.....said the man is a complete clown.

yep hes right one thats making fortune at it, but were not laughing! They were asking on the radio on the way home what does Ireland do for a living?....its certainly not play football

[Risso]

Well, I've just finished a four mile run and I feel bloody fantastic, and the missus is happy that Bolton won.  I'm going to piss about on Photoshop with some of the photos I took earlier, and the football can go roger itself up the arse.

[steamer]

Another late night bemoaning our fate.
When will I ever learn ?

[Villanation]

"Unquestionably, Alex meets the criteria we set out at the beginning of our search which was based on proven Premier League experience, leadership, a hard-working ethic and, most importantly, a shared vision for Aston Villa.'

Faulkner, what is this shared vision - abject mediocrity?

There is no one inside Aston Villa in a position of authority that has any idea about football. So Randy and Faulkner went to Man Utd and asked Alex Ferguson what he thinks of his mate McLeish. He gave him a glowing reference and the rest is history.

I wonder if Fergie's opinion is partly why we don't have European Cup winning Rafa Benitez in charge right now.

And Alex Ferguson being the hyper competitive win at all costs kind of individual he is gave RL a forthright and honest appraisal

[Shrek]

I'm gobsmacked, I don't think I remember blues ever playing this bad.

[Greg N'Ash]

you can't turn shit into gold and while it was a favourite pastime of MON is never worked. bottom line is all we've got left is MON's shit  Bent, Gabby and the kids. swap AM for ferguson and he couldn't turn our back 4 into anything more than average

[passport1]

Lets face it no decent manager would touch a poisoned challice of a job when they realised the restrictions they would be working under.

McLeish jumped at it because he knows it was the best offer he would get with his track record.

It all comes back to Lerner and his sidekicks they don't have a clue.

[Mac]

Seriously, what are we playing for now?

Until the FA Cup in January it's just a season of plodding along. Atleast Martinez would have given us belief of a bigger picture, an end-game.

This is just very, meh.

But since the inception of the Champions League we've only ever played for the cups.  It's why football is shit.

[andyh]

I have watched some fucking shit over my many years of following the Villa.
But that was the biggest load of fucking shit ever.

But, why should I care they don't - from the very bottom to the very fucking top.