Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Post-Match Thread

[Nirog72]

Can we get James Collins Jnr back from Shrewsbury?

[PaulWinch again]

here's a question - for those of you who want to give am a chance. How long until the chance is over?

If he doesnt put a couple of tacklers in the middle on Sunday to cope with Barton, then he can go Sunday evening.

As I said in the match thread, who are these tacklers?

Well there was one that we let go for nothing and is now playing for Bolton I think.

Quite, but that's not Mcleish's fault and he can hardly select him Sunday can he?

[Villanation]

During the Summer of 2009, going into the 2009/10 season someone on here (I think it was paulie) said 'it feels like we're drifting'.

It's felt like that ever since. There's been a few highs (cup runs and the Bent signing), but mostly it's just felt very half-arsed. So much good work has been undone.

Randy has to take most of the blame.

Ultimately he does, however he then delegates responsibility of the team to the manager, if the manager can't hack it he goes and if the Chair can't repair the damage he goes.

First step then..........AM

[Greg N'Ash]

can't blame AM really for taking the job. Either he's been set up as the fall guy or Lerner is more of a fuckwitt whan i gave him credit for. As i've said since he's been appointed - Carcrash waiting to happen. From now on its gonna get rough as the Anti blose lot come out of the woodwork.

[JJ-AV]

here's a question - for those of you who want to give am a chance. How long until the chance is over?

If he doesnt put a couple of tacklers in the middle on Sunday to cope with Barton, then he can go Sunday evening.

As I said in the match thread, who are these tacklers?

Well there was one that we let go for nothing and is now playing for Bolton I think.

Quite, but that's not Mcleish's fault and he can hardly select him Sunday can he?

Our negative approach to games and unimaginative style of play is McLeish's fault, though.

[passport1]

At least I am not locked into the season like I was last year when I had a season ticket.
I thought I might go to the odd match this season but on to-nights evidence I cannot think of a single reason to go down there.

We are back to the O'Lleary era god help us.

[Villanation]

here's a question - for those of you who want to give am a chance. How long until the chance is over?

If he doesnt put a couple of tacklers in the middle on Sunday to cope with Barton, then he can go Sunday evening.

As I said in the match thread, who are these tacklers?

Well there was one that we let go for nothing and is now playing for Bolton I think.

Quite, but that's not Mcleish's fault and he can hardly select him Sunday can he?

Our negative approach to games and unimaginative style of play is McLeish's fault, though.

Absolutely, can anyone on here say they have seen a performance this season that inspires them to believe we are heading in the right direction.

There is your answer.

[hawkeye]

Please do not fall into the trap of Blaming Mcleish, The real problem is with the Board, they are the guys who have pulled back all the finances at such speed to leave us with an unbalanced squad and a manager with a very poor ecord in the PL.
Thier decisions over the last 2 years have created this mess.

That may be true but the board aren't managing the team, the board aren't letting us get outplayed by Newcastle and Boston at home, the board aren't letting us play like shit... what happens on the field is McLeish's responsibility and he hasn't shown us anything which the fans like.

I was relieved when last season finished hoping this season we would be back competing... its only 7 games into this season and I already know we will be in for a season of struggle.

The Board set the agenda, they have sold players and not replaced them and The Board appointed him.

[mrfuse]

Just got back from the Game paid £5 for my ticket.....I was robbed and Ireland can fuck off

[brian green]

All of this was certain when we read in the summer that Randy Lerner had flown to Corsica to talk to McLeish.   I could not believe it t the time that Alex McLeish was the best we could come up with and that the owner was intervening personally to make sure we got him at all costs.

I do not blame McLeish for the situation we find ourselves in any more than I blame the pigeons for shitting on my car.   I blame the board for not being able to deal with the departure of O'Neill calmly and constructively.   They appointed an old, sick man with nothing to prove when they should have bided their time and signed a young, healthy and ambitious one.   When the inevitable breakdown of Houllier's health occurred the board should have bided their time and signed a young, healthy ambitious manager.   Instead they lurched from blunder to blunder in their pursuit of somebody cheap until Lerner himself stepped in and flew to Corsica with ticks in his three boxes Is he available?  Will he be grateful?  Will he do as he is told?   That was when all this became inevitable.

I do not believe for one minute that David Moyes could not have been secured from Everton for a big enough offer bearing in mind their financial circumstances.

McLeish is McLeish we have to live with it.

[kippaxvilla2]

"Unquestionably, Alex meets the criteria we set out at the beginning of our search which was based on proven Premier League experience, leadership, a hard-working ethic and, most importantly, a shared vision for Aston Villa.'

Faulkner, what is this shared vision - abject mediocrity?

[TonyD]

Tacklers for Sunday will have to be found from reserve defenders.  Yes that is what we will have to do.

[Holtenderinthesky]

It was always said that AM would be under pressure quicker because of his old connections, and it is true to an extent.  I think thats probably half due to the fact people only really started at a base of 'half acceptance', and half that now we have seen his grand plan for the season.  Not exciting times.

I really think that the reason he was always going to be under pressure is because he is a) a shit manager and b) working with a very average threadbare squad who has lost 2 of it's best players.  I honestly think this "ex Blues" thing is blown way out of proportion, I couldn't care less about that if he was actually a good manager.

[Villanation]

Just got back from the Game paid £5 for my ticket.....I was robbed and Ireland can fuck off

That is what a mate said when I phoned him at the game.....said the man is a complete clown.

[garyshawsknee]

At least I am not locked into the season like I was last year when I had a season ticket.
I thought I might go to the odd match this season but on to-nights evidence I cannot think of a single reason to go down there.

We are back to the O'Lleary era god help us.

You've brave joining right now,you're not a Sado are you?