Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Post-Match Thread

[Villanation]

Well said Villanation. You consistantly talk sense fella. Greg, I think I'm yet to see a thread that you post in, in which you don't bring up MON. You are the only person to do this.

nowt to do with blaming MON in this instance. look at our squad - it consists almost entirely of MON's mistakes. His few successes were sold last summer and this.

So who are you blaming, are you blaming MON for the players that where part of his squad that wasn't so good but he got good success with and yet now they are crap and AM can't do anything with or are you blaming MON for the fact that the club sold MON's best players after MON had gone, and could have no control over.

So who are you blaming.

[Nelly]

We are back to the O'Lleary era god help us.

That resonates a little too deeply for comfort.

[villa `cross the mersey]

If its any consolation for those who went tonight - me and VCTM jnr had to endure Southport 0 - Wrexham 0 (highlight = two sendings off and a decent hot dog for £2 !!!!)

[russon]

Just in and wanted to record my horror before going to bed. That performance is just not acceptable. We've got seasoned pro's offloading the ball anywhere just to absolve themselves of responsibility leaving the young guns to try and do something with it (Bannan, Albrighton) and carry the can when they lose it. Ireland should be ashamed of himself tonight, Warnock & Hutton too. I'd be furious if there was any Villa blood still coarsing through me but last time I looked it had all but gone. Rubbish like this simply can't go on. There were 22,000 there tonight who deserve better and tens more thousands at home who love this club but are being served up absolute tripe. Some chap's posted that he's seen worse, well I haven't.

[Villanation]

Well said Villanation. You consistantly talk sense fella. Greg, I think I'm yet to see a thread that you post in, in which you don't bring up MON. You are the only person to do this.

nowt to do with blaming MON in this instance. look at our squad - it consists almost entirely of MON's mistakes. His few successes were sold last summer and this.

So who are you blaming, are you blaming MON for the players that where part of his squad that wasn't so good but he got good success with and yet now they are crap and AM can't do anything with or are you blaming MON for the fact that the club sold MON's best players after MON had gone, and could have no control over.

So who are you blaming.

Apologies, I've stuck the wrong quote up here....

[Greg N'Ash]

give AM 80m to spend and the same in wages i'm sure he'll get a few decent players. Hell give Barry Fry that and the law of averages he'd sign one or two good ones out of the 100 plus. Bottom line is AM's budget has been minus 15m and probably the same in wages. MON couldn't have signed Young, milner or anyone else in those circumstances

[Clampy]

Not long got back myself and it was'nt good. I want Eck to suceed, but if we don't create hardly any chances, then that's not going to happen. He needs a re-think for his own sake as well as ours.

[mrfuse]

Well what do you do in Midfield?

Petrov has actually played better this season and is looking forward instead of sideways but is still running out of energy, Delph Im still not convinced about. Bannan is nice and neat and tidy but doesnt seem to hurt teams maybe with more games. Ireland well is non existent Id rather Gardener have played than him. which leaves Jenas and its a lot to ask for him to get fit stay fit and play well quickly!

[myf]

Didn't see that result coming at all.  Very surprised we got beat at home by them, especially after seeing Manu take them apart with ease last week.

Seems like we can't get any kind of momentum together at the minute after what has been a very favourable run of fixtures.  Bit of a worry really.

Big test for AM now as we all knew the pressure was going to build as soon as we suffered the first defeat.  Very disappointing that the defeat had to come so early in this competition as well.

[James]

When a team comes out at the start of the game and puts an abject 45 minutes in, you have to question the manager. When they come out second half and put an even more abject 45 minutes in, you have to question the manager even more. It's his job to select the team and motivate them. Clearly he isn't doing this. I think it's right to be questioning AMc. Now that the 'unbeaten' word has been cleared away we will see, I'm afraid, the cracks that it was papering over. The board aren't interested, the manager seemingly isn't, the players don't appear to be either, and a defeat at QPR could spark the lowest VP attendance in years (anyone know when/what that was btw?). I'd say McLeish out, he should never even have been in, but who else'd we get now?

[jibba81]

Jibba, I am allocated a resident's parking space by the city council.   It is beneath a tree full of pigeon nests.   Its either pigeon shit or the wheel clamp gangsters.   Should have used a different metaphor.

Then move house or something. The pigeon shit needs to stop.

[Villanation]

give AM 80m to spend and the same in wages i'm sure he'll get a few decent players. Hell give Barry Fry that and the law of averages he'd sign one or two good ones out of the 100 plus. Bottom line is AM's budget has been minus 15m and probably the same in wages. MON couldn't have signed Young, milner or anyone else in those circumstances

Greg:

80ML, That maybe the case, it may be a disaster and AM may simply not be able to attract or convince the right players to come, do you seriously believe that only us and noses know about the kind of negative football that AM is known to produce and that we are now experiencing first hand.

One thing that is a fact MON  spent 80ML and we had some good times.......yes, that's is what its all about as a fan, don't you remember that night on the eve of the League Cup final as we all waited with great excitement to meet Manchester Utd, don't know about you mate but I want to see Gabby and lads there again, I want to see us in europe again, I want to see Alex Ferguson face again after we take 3 pts of him and watch Wenger crying into his beer. Can't see that anytime soon.

[glasses]

I don't follow you Greg? You are not blaming MON, but you brought him up. However its his fault that the team is shit, but you don't blame him? One could say that you are talking bollocks

[Small Rodent]

Just relax chaps...I'm sure that General Krulak will be on here later to spout his words of wisdom....

....just as soon as he's finished teaching the alphabet to his kids at school.

To be honest, if he was doing that, it's a far more important job than football. Far more.

So after that dose of real life; I honestly cannot say I have seen a Villa team since Pre-Gregory with a Plan B.

[mr-villa]

Can I congratulate everybody who went tonight for their loyalty.  Me and my son were two ST holderrs who did not go tonight, £15 x 2 for tickets and £20 for petrol just too much Randy.  I am afraid to say that the performance tonight every bit justfies my decision.  For the club to ask ST holders for £15 to sit in their regular seats for tonights game is appaling.  It is quite clear looking at tonights gate figures across the country (Wolves got just 7000!!) that this competition just does not excite fans anymore.  The club should not have charged more than £8 for any seat in the ground tonight and it should have been kids for a quid.  Please wake up and smell the coffee Mr Faulkener.

As for the future under AM, lets get behind the team over the coming league games and see where we are come the end of the year when the window re-opens.  The manager cant change the squad til then so no point changing the manager til then.