What is it about Emile Heskey?

[The Laughing Policeman]

Many thanks for the replies so far.
To summarise, he puts in a shift, he'll do exactly what's asked of him, he's great at holding the ball up.
If he has time to think he's shite, he's too slow, no way should he be playing for Aston Villa.
So what exactly do so many managers see in Emile?

[spangley1812]

Many thanks for the replies so far.
To summarise, he puts in a shift, he'll do exactly what's asked of him, he's great at holding the ball up.
If he has time to think he's shite, he's too slow, no way should he be playing for Aston Villa.
So what exactly do so many managers see in Emile?

Thats not how we all feel if you read all the replies 

[TonyD]

Has a safe full of pics (shares it with a certain former villa manager)

[Risso]

Many thanks for the replies so far.
To summarise, he puts in a shift, he'll do exactly what's asked of him, he's great at holding the ball up.
If he has time to think he's shite, he's too slow, no way should he be playing for Aston Villa.
So what exactly do so many managers see in Emile?

How many managers have won anything in the last ten years with him in the team?  Why haven't any of the very best teams been in for him?

[spangley1812]

Many thanks for the replies so far.
To summarise, he puts in a shift, he'll do exactly what's asked of him, he's great at holding the ball up.
If he has time to think he's shite, he's too slow, no way should he be playing for Aston Villa.
So what exactly do so many managers see in Emile?

How many managers have won anything in the last ten years with him in the team?  Why haven't any of the very best teams been in for him?

You could ask that about 80% of the players in the league.......

[Risso]

Many thanks for the replies so far.
To summarise, he puts in a shift, he'll do exactly what's asked of him, he's great at holding the ball up.
If he has time to think he's shite, he's too slow, no way should he be playing for Aston Villa.
So what exactly do so many managers see in Emile?

How many managers have won anything in the last ten years with him in the team?  Why haven't any of the very best teams been in for him?

You could ask that about 80% of the players in the league.......

Yes, but we keep hearing about how players like Owen, Rooney and Gerrard love playing with him.  It just seems that their club managers don't agree.

[spangley1812]

Many thanks for the replies so far.
To summarise, he puts in a shift, he'll do exactly what's asked of him, he's great at holding the ball up.
If he has time to think he's shite, he's too slow, no way should he be playing for Aston Villa.
So what exactly do so many managers see in Emile?

How many managers have won anything in the last ten years with him in the team?  Why haven't any of the very best teams been in for him?

You could ask that about 80% of the players in the league.......

Yes, but we keep hearing about how players like Owen, Rooney and Gerrard love playing with him.  It just seems that their club managers don't agree.

Didnt he play with Owen, Stevie G under Rafa @ Liverpool and they beat Blues in the Carling Cup in sure and he may even have been in the squad when they won the Champions League 

[Dave]

Many thanks for the replies so far.
To summarise, he puts in a shift, he'll do exactly what's asked of him, he's great at holding the ball up.
If he has time to think he's shite, he's too slow, no way should he be playing for Aston Villa.
So what exactly do so many managers see in Emile?

How many managers have won anything in the last ten years with him in the team?  Why haven't any of the very best teams been in for him?

You could ask that about 80% of the players in the league.......

Yes, but we keep hearing about how players like Owen, Rooney and Gerrard love playing with him.  It just seems that their club managers don't agree.

Didnt he play with Owen, Stevie G under Rafa @ Liverpool and they beat Blues in the Carling Cup in sure and he may even have been in the squad when they won the Champions League 

Houllier won the Carling Cup with Liverpool. And he was at Birmingham by the time they won the Champions League.

And really, Stevie G? REALLY?

[Villanation]

@ Spangley.. That's because 80% of players in the Premiership are very average and only survive because they are part of a team, that's the beauty of football as opposed to playing golf or snooker, tennis, playing football you can hide playing the latter your either good or your crap and everyone can see it. As for Heskey surely the point is, he had is momentary time at the top of his game for a very short period and some time ago, most Blues fans will tell you he was crap there, the only front man in football that doesn't score goals, went to Wigan under Bruce was reasonable and for some very strange reason O'Neill wanted him at Villa, which I think is more to do with nostalgia than cold hard facts.........and he's getting on.

By the way when he played  for Liverpool in the Carling Cup final versus Birmingham City I think you'll find most noses will tell you that Liverpool where crap, Blues ran them ragged, should have lifted the cup and Owen  was on the bench, Heskey played up front with Fowler and guess what Heskey couldn't score for toffee...........and that's when he was at the top of his game.

Heskey seems a really nice bloke, at times he's useful to bring on and rub the opposition defence up the wrong way, but you can't sensibly start a game with a player up front that doesn't know where the goal is, if Villa had a massive squad maybe you could hide him in there somewhere, but Villa needs every man to count.

[spangley1812]

That year he won the FA Cup, League Cup and UEFA Cup if you think he is rubbish and not worth his place thats fine I think he does a good job for the team and if he is not in the team the midfield is very lightweight and he is usefull when defending set pieces

[PeterWithesShin]

It would be interesting what other players think of him, especially defenders. I'd reckon most would prefer to face a Villa side that doesn't have him in the starting line up.
Apart from maybe the keeper 

[PeterWithesShin]

As for trophies, I wish Villa had won what he's won over the past 15 years!

[LeeB]

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@ Spangley.. That's because 80% of players in the Premiership are very average and only survive because they are part of a team, that's the beauty of football as opposed to playing golf or snooker, tennis, playing football you can hide playing the latter your either good or your crap and everyone can see it. As for Heskey surely the point is, he had is momentary time at the top of his game for a very short period and some time ago, most Blues fans will tell you he was crap there, the only front man in football that doesn't score goals, went to Wigan under Bruce was reasonable and for some very strange reason O'Neill wanted him at Villa, which I think is more to do with nostalgia than cold hard facts.........and he's getting on.

By the way when he played  for Liverpool in the Carling Cup final versus Birmingham City I think you'll find most noses will tell you that Liverpool where crap, Blues ran them ragged, should have lifted the cup and Owen  was on the bench, Heskey played up front with Fowler and guess what Heskey couldn't score for toffee...........and that's when he was at the top of his game.

Heskey seems a really nice bloke, at times he's useful to bring on and rub the opposition defence up the wrong way, but you can't sensibly start a game with a player up front that doesn't know where the goal is, if Villa had a massive squad maybe you could hide him in there somewhere, but Villa needs every man to count.


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He won the FA Cup, League Cup and Uefa Cup in that same season, however feel free to take the opinion of the unwashed, they do know their football down Da Bloose.

[Villanation]

That year he won the FA Cup, League Cup and UEFA Cup if you think he is rubbish and not worth his place thats fine I think he does a good job for the team and if he is not in the team the midfield is very lightweight and he is usefull when defending set pieces

That year he won the FA Cup, League Cup and UEFA Cup,    ?

I'm not saying he's rubbish, I'm saying he would be better suited elsewhere, not just for him but definitely for Villa.

PWS, I'd wouldn't mind betting most defenders would prefer to face a cumbersome tree that maybe difficult in the tackle but is no threat up front, than a player that gets the slightest wiff of the goal will score or attempt to score, think about it, I wonder what Moyes will say to the Everton defence for Saturday, don't worry about marking Heskey he'll never score as long as he's got a hole in his ar*e, double up on Bent and negate Agbonlahor, threat over.

[LeeB]

That year he won the FA Cup, League Cup and UEFA Cup if you think he is rubbish and not worth his place thats fine I think he does a good job for the team and if he is not in the team the midfield is very lightweight and he is usefull when defending set pieces

That year he won the FA Cup, League Cup and UEFA Cup,    ?

I'm not saying he's rubbish, I'm saying he would be better suited elsewhere, not just for him but definitely for Villa.

PWS, I'd wouldn't mind betting most defenders would prefer to face a cumbersome tree that maybe difficult in the tackle but is no threat up front, than a player that gets the slightest wiff of the goal will score or attempt to score, think about it, I wonder what Moyes will say to the Everton defence for Saturday, don't worry about marking Heskey he'll never score as long as he's got a hole in his ar*e, double up on Bent and negate Agbonlahor, threat over.

Yes HE did, and if you ask him nicely I'm sure he'll show you his medals.

And a couple of months later he scored as they beat Bayern in the Super Cup. The shit bastard.