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Author Topic: Aston Villa sign Charles N'Zogbia (Reply#1151)  (Read 333718 times)

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #435 on: July 22, 2011, 03:28:42 PM »
The longer this drags on the more concinced I am that the difference between us and Wigan is more than just £1m.  It may be over payment structure and add ons, but in the modern game £1m is such a small amount I can't see it holding a deal like this up.

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #436 on: July 22, 2011, 03:29:55 PM »
Unless Everton sell someone, they haven't got £10m to spend on N'Zogbia.

Neither do we despite selling 2 of our best players!

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #437 on: July 22, 2011, 03:34:07 PM »
Why not bid £9.5 and have done with it?
Why bid £9.5 when DW has stated he wants £10m? This whole thing is getting boring now.

If he turns it down, so be it. What have we got to lose?

The fact it will make us look even more stupid considering DW has said its £10m and then we decide to bid £9.5m.

Errr that's the art of negotiation. I'm pretty sure that Whelan will have his best and worst prices that he'll accept plus loads of other variables. Speed of payment, sell on clauses, potential add ons, interest terms etc

That would be true if DW hadn't stated on numerous occasions that villa have to bid £10m to talk to Nzogbia.  Why waste time and say we'll offer you £9.5m?  it will just make us look even more stupid.  If DW didnt state a price then yes, we could offer £9.5 but he has clearly stated £10m

Absolute cock. You make a bid and it's either accepted or refused. As for wasting time, isn't that what Villa are doing at the moment?

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #438 on: July 22, 2011, 03:40:49 PM »
Is it that much of a loss if we don't get him ? I'd say it's more his. It's nothing to do with price anyway. When he insists he wants to joins us he will regardless of the price. Players rule the game.

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #439 on: July 22, 2011, 03:42:04 PM »
Why not bid £9.5 and have done with it?
Why bid £9.5 when DW has stated he wants £10m? This whole thing is getting boring now.

If he turns it down, so be it. What have we got to lose?

The fact it will make us look even more stupid considering DW has said its £10m and then we decide to bid £9.5m.

Errr that's the art of negotiation. I'm pretty sure that Whelan will have his best and worst prices that he'll accept plus loads of other variables. Speed of payment, sell on clauses, potential add ons, interest terms etc

That would be true if DW hadn't stated on numerous occasions that villa have to bid £10m to talk to Nzogbia.  Why waste time and say we'll offer you £9.5m?  it will just make us look even more stupid.  If DW didnt state a price then yes, we could offer £9.5 but he has clearly stated £10m

Absolute cock. You make a bid and it's either accepted or refused. As for wasting time, isn't that what Villa are doing at the moment?

Absolute cock?  So youre telling me that even though DW has stated and its been reported in the press , that £10m will give us the right to speak to Nzogbia that we should go in with a £9.5m bid?  Pathetic. Honestly.  The club already look stupid for not forking out an extra £1m but in your eyes going up an extra 500k is ok? 

Personally, im not too fussed whether we get him or not as i dont really remember him being talked about before the last 6 games of the season.

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #440 on: July 22, 2011, 03:57:02 PM »
Rick, you've also got to remember that the rest of football could not give two hoots about this perceived football transfer saga. Do us Villa fans get outraged that Chelsea gave only bid £27m for Modric, no we hardly know it's going on.

So I don't think anyone is looking foolish here, certainly not the club.

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #441 on: July 22, 2011, 04:24:28 PM »
Rick, you've also got to remember that the rest of football could not give two hoots about this perceived football transfer saga. Do us Villa fans get outraged that Chelsea gave only bid £27m for Modric, no we hardly know it's going on.

So I don't think anyone is looking foolish here, certainly not the club.

.............and he is a very good player.

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #442 on: July 22, 2011, 04:25:54 PM »
It could be that McLeish, having previous with N'Zogbia, is making sure the player wants to join us and isn't dicking him around again.

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #443 on: July 22, 2011, 04:26:38 PM »
Rick, you've also got to remember that the rest of football could not give two hoots about this perceived football transfer saga. Do us Villa fans get outraged that Chelsea gave only bid £27m for Modric, no we hardly know it's going on.

So I don't think anyone is looking foolish here, certainly not the club.

.............and he is a very good player.

Modric is yes..........Nzogbia is just above average

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #444 on: July 22, 2011, 04:28:05 PM »
10 goals and 8 assists from midfield in a side that were nearly relegated is more than 'just above average'!

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #445 on: July 22, 2011, 04:29:51 PM »
Why not bid £9.5 and have done with it?
Why bid £9.5 when DW has stated he wants £10m? This whole thing is getting boring now.

If he turns it down, so be it. What have we got to lose?

The fact it will make us look even more stupid considering DW has said its £10m and then we decide to bid £9.5m.

Errr that's the art of negotiation. I'm pretty sure that Whelan will have his best and worst prices that he'll accept plus loads of other variables. Speed of payment, sell on clauses, potential add ons, interest terms etc

That would be true if DW hadn't stated on numerous occasions that villa have to bid £10m to talk to Nzogbia.  Why waste time and say we'll offer you £9.5m?  it will just make us look even more stupid.  If DW didnt state a price then yes, we could offer £9.5 but he has clearly stated £10m

Absolute cock. You make a bid and it's either accepted or refused. As for wasting time, isn't that what Villa are doing at the moment?

Absolute cock?  So youre telling me that even though DW has stated and its been reported in the press , that £10m will give us the right to speak to Nzogbia that we should go in with a £9.5m bid?  Pathetic. Honestly.  The club already look stupid for not forking out an extra £1m but in your eyes going up an extra 500k is ok? 

Personally, im not too fussed whether we get him or not as i dont really remember him being talked about before the last 6 games of the season.

Rick, you're way too carried away. It's a £10m transfer between Villa and Wigan in world where we've had an £80m transfer and £20m+ moves are becoming the norm. Nobody outside of us and Wigan fans give a damn about this, and why should they? It will get done, get 20 seconds on Sky Sports and that will be it. It's not remotely newsworthy to fans of other teams so we're not looking stupid at all. It's a football transfer and this sort of haggling goes on. In fact, if there were actually any decent size transfers happening at all right now, this would likely be pretty low down the list of what was important.
« Last Edit: July 22, 2011, 04:44:51 PM by toronto villa »

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #446 on: July 22, 2011, 04:31:04 PM »
10 goals and 8 assists from midfield in a side that were nearly relegated is more than 'just above average'!

How many international caps has he got ??

Offline Lucky Eddie

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #447 on: July 22, 2011, 04:34:46 PM »
When we sign a player that any of the teams who finished above us would like to have signed - then, and only then, I might start to get excited about the coming season.

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #448 on: July 22, 2011, 04:35:11 PM »
10 goals and 8 assists from midfield in a side that were nearly relegated is more than 'just above average'!

How many international caps has he got ??

Despite their implosion in the last World Cup, France have some cracking players playing for top clubs, so it's no disgrace.

How many did Ashley Young have have 2 or 3 years ago when he was in his best form for us?

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #449 on: July 22, 2011, 04:36:14 PM »
Don't know how many international caps but he scored the other day for France.
Admittedly it was slightly deflected but he cut in nicely from the right and hit a good left footed shot past... Can't remember.

 


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