Aston Villa sign Charles N'Zogbia (Reply#1151)

[Concrete John]

Thinking this through, there seem to be a lot of unsubstantiated rumours we're taking as fact on this deal.  As far as I'm aware, all that we do know is that we've bid £9m and they want £10m, and even that is from the Wigan end only.

So have any of the following been confirmed by actual quotes as opposed to a journalists 'understanding':-
1.  That Everton are interested?
2.  That N'Zogbia and/or his agent thought he could go for £9m? 
3.  That we won't go back with a higher bid?

To me I see two ways this is going.  The first being that there was some agreement somewhere over a £9m fee, but Whelan changed his mind.  Or secondly that that isn't the case and we've simply bid, probably lead by McLeish following his interest while at Blues, and we haven't met their valuation.  If it's the first thing then I think the club is right for not being made mugs out of and sticking to their guns.  But if it's the second then I think we should up our bid to £10m and get it done.     

[London Villan]

I'm guessing it goes back to Wigan accepting small heath's £9m bid before. We are probably saying what's changed...

[Pete3206]

Why not bid £9.5 and have done with it?

[andyaston]

Why not bid £9.5 and have done with it?

Yea meet them half way, good old bargaining skills.

[Concrete John]

If Whelan is firm in his 'not a pennt under £10m' stance, then £9.5m won't cut the mustard either.

[Rick_avfc]

Why not bid £9.5 and have done with it?

Why bid £9.5 when DW has stated he wants £10m? This whole thing is getting boring now.

[Pete3206]

Why not bid £9.5 and have done with it?

Why bid £9.5 when DW has stated he wants £10m? This whole thing is getting boring now.

If he turns it down, so be it. What have we got to lose?

[Rick_avfc]

Why not bid £9.5 and have done with it?

Why bid £9.5 when DW has stated he wants £10m? This whole thing is getting boring now.

If he turns it down, so be it. What have we got to lose?

The fact it will make us look even more stupid considering DW has said its £10m and then we decide to bid £9.5m.

[Dante Lavelli]

Alright so Wigan said 9 and now they want 10 mill.

C'mon Villa just pay it and stop acting so small time. It's embarrassing, considering we've just pocketed the best part of 36 mill. Making a stance is one thing, missing out on players we need is fucking frustrating. 

The most frustrating thing is that at no point did Wigan quote us 9 million.

How do you know ? Maybe they did which would explain why we are so adamant not to up the bid

It has been quoted that Nzogbia and his agent thought they had an agreement that if a bid came in for 9 million he could leave.

They didn't have that agreement.

Just because 9 million was accepted previously doesn't mean it has to be accepted again

Where are you getting this inside information?
If you're close to the player can you suggest he hands in a transfer request. If it's to either club can you put forward the option that Wigan takes one or two of our youngsters for a season (not sure who though).

[TheSandman]

Why don't we just fucking bid for someone else? Some people are acting as if N'Zogbia is the only left winger in the world. We might be able to get another for a smaller fee. Hopefully one who would not be angling for a transfer 5 minutes after his first good performance.

[Dante Lavelli]

Why not bid £9.5 and have done with it?

Why bid £9.5 when DW has stated he wants £10m? This whole thing is getting boring now.

If he turns it down, so be it. What have we got to lose?

The fact it will make us look even more stupid considering DW has said its £10m and then we decide to bid £9.5m.

Errr that's the art of negotiation. I'm pretty sure that Whelan will have his best and worst prices that he'll accept plus loads of other variables. Speed of payment, sell on clauses, potential add ons, interest terms etc

[Rick_avfc]

Why not bid £9.5 and have done with it?

Why bid £9.5 when DW has stated he wants £10m? This whole thing is getting boring now.

If he turns it down, so be it. What have we got to lose?

The fact it will make us look even more stupid considering DW has said its £10m and then we decide to bid £9.5m.

Errr that's the art of negotiation. I'm pretty sure that Whelan will have his best and worst prices that he'll accept plus loads of other variables. Speed of payment, sell on clauses, potential add ons, interest terms etc

That would be true if DW hadn't stated on numerous occasions that villa have to bid £10m to talk to Nzogbia.  Why waste time and say we'll offer you £9.5m?  it will just make us look even more stupid.  If DW didnt state a price then yes, we could offer £9.5 but he has clearly stated £10m

[Matt C]

Unless Everton sell someone, they haven't got £10m to spend on N'Zogbia.

[VillaAlways]

Why not bid £9.5 and have done with it?

Why bid £9.5 when DW has stated he wants £10m? This whole thing is getting boring now.

If he turns it down, so be it. What have we got to lose?

The fact it will make us look even more stupid considering DW has said its £10m and then we decide to bid £9.5m.

Errr that's the art of negotiation. I'm pretty sure that Whelan will have his best and worst prices that he'll accept plus loads of other variables. Speed of payment, sell on clauses, potential add ons, interest terms etc

That would be true if DW hadn't stated on numerous occasions that villa have to bid £10m to talk to Nzogbia.  Why waste time and say we'll offer you £9.5m?  it will just make us look even more stupid.  If DW didnt state a price then yes, we could offer £9.5 but he has clearly stated £10m

That doesn't mean he wouldn't meet in the middle.He stated he needs to sell the player FFS.They need to strengthen their own squad and no other buggers interested.Of course ther's every chance he'd accept it.

[VillaAlways]

Unless Everton sell someone, they haven't got £10m to spend on N'Zogbia.

They still couldn't afford his wage demands if they did