Club Statement

[Simba]

Well, we will soon find out wont' we?

[Meanwood Villa]

The oft repeated comment from some quarters

'Oh, you only object to him because he managed the Blues'
Is lazy and inaccurate.

It might apply to the 500 or so goons who stormed the Witton Lane gates, but to the vasts majority of Villa supporters, they're more concerned about his managerial record.

Very true. I don't think people would have been happy with Holloway or Grant either. And plenty, myself included, didn't want Martinez who was more successful in the league.

The other thing about the Blues connection is that if he'd done really well for them, say, won a trophy and then not tarnished it by taking them down, again, then I think many of us would be enjoying poaching their promising manager. The fact of the matter is he was their manager and he wasn't very good.

[Chris Smith]

I didn't want him as manager.

What was that view based on?

Blind prejudice.

Is that true Chris, or did you think he was not good enough for the Villa job?

It's as true as you lot pretending him manging that lot has nothing to do with it.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

I didn't want him as manager.

What was that view based on?

Blind prejudice.

Is that true Chris, or did you think he was not good enough for the Villa job?

It's as true as you lot pretending him manging that lot has nothing to do with it.

I think even you know that is patently untrue Chris, I can only assume you've got your arse in your hand over something.
I and many others objected with equal force to appointing the thin Spanish waiter from Wigan.

If he was a quality manager coming from the Blues, i'd welcome him with open arms.

[Villanation]

The oft repeated comment from some quarters

'Oh, you only object to him because he managed the Blues'
Is lazy and inaccurate.

It might apply to the 500 or so goons who stormed the Witton Lane gates, but to the vasts majority of Villa supporters, they're more concerned about his managerial record.

Very true. I don't think people would have been happy with Holloway or Grant either. And plenty, myself included, didn't want Martinez who was more successful in the league.

The other thing about the Blues connection is that if he'd done really well for them, say, won a trophy and then not tarnished it by taking them down, again, then I think many of us would be enjoying poaching their promising manager. The fact of the matter is he was their manager and he wasn't very good.

And he cost us a lot of money, would you pay millions for the privilege.

Love to know what kind of contract and severance he's been offered.

[pauliewalnuts]

I didn't want him as manager.

What was that view based on?

Blind prejudice.

Is that true Chris, or did you think he was not good enough for the Villa job?

It's as true as you lot pretending him manging that lot has nothing to do with it.

Maybe you could do us the benefit of at least taking our views at face value rather than assuming we're lying.

[Chris Smith]

I didn't want him as manager.

What was that view based on?

Blind prejudice.

Is that true Chris, or did you think he was not good enough for the Villa job?

It's as true as you lot pretending him manging that lot has nothing to do with it.

I think even you know that is patently untrue Chris, I can only assume you've got your arse in your hand over something.
I and many others objected with equal force to appointing the thin Spanish waiter from Wigan.

If he was a quality manager coming from the Blues, i'd welcome him with open arms.

I'm actually quite enjoying myself. We wouldn't have facebook pages etc for any other manager, it might not be the prime reason for all of you but the fact that he came from them makes a difference.

I didn't want him as I prefered Moyes.

[Chris Smith]

I didn't want him as manager.

What was that view based on?

Blind prejudice.

Is that true Chris, or did you think he was not good enough for the Villa job?

It's as true as you lot pretending him manging that lot has nothing to do with it.

Maybe you could do us the benefit of at least taking our views at face value rather than assuming we're lying.

So I'm asked if I'm lying, give a flippant answer and you then take offence. How queer.

[Villanation]

I think its also worth pointing out at this point that my status has been elevated to "youth team"......Just thought i would point that little detail out.

[hilts_coolerking]

Maybe you could do us the benefit of at least taking our views at face value rather than assuming we're lying.

It's textbook Smith-ery: having a go at those who hold a view of McLeish that he himself held just a few months ago.

[pauliewalnuts]

You are now either going to refocus and get behind the club and hope the manager succeeds or you're going to keep on with complaining about it which is getting so exhausting. Look, almost none of us wanted him, but he's here now. Give him a chance to win you over. Is that really so much to ask?

No, it isn't too much to ask, and pretty much every single poster on here has said they'll give him a chance.

However, giving him a chance and pretending his previous record doesn't matter are two totally different things.

[not3bad]

I think its also worth pointing out at this point that my status has been elevated to "youth team"......Just thought i would point that little detail out.

I need my boots cleaning.

[pauliewalnuts]

Maybe you could do us the benefit of at least taking our views at face value rather than assuming we're lying.

It's textbook Smith-ery: having a go at those who hold a view of McLeish that he himself held just a few months ago.

Of course it is. Chris loves a ruck.

That's why we get comments like the one about "you lot pretending him coming from Blues had nothing to do with it".

A classic Smudger move - moaning about people going on about something then dropping in a perfect little comment which he knows will ensure the row goes on much longer.

If Alistair Campbell didn't support one of the other clubs in claret and blue, I'd swear Chris was him

[Rip Van We Go Again]

I didn't want him as manager.

What was that view based on?

Blind prejudice.

Is that true Chris, or did you think he was not good enough for the Villa job?

It's as true as you lot pretending him manging that lot has nothing to do with it.

I think even you know that is patently untrue Chris, I can only assume you've got your arse in your hand over something.
I and many others objected with equal force to appointing the thin Spanish waiter from Wigan.

If he was a quality manager coming from the Blues, i'd welcome him with open arms.

I'm actually quite enjoying myself. We wouldn't have facebook pages etc for any other manager

I couldn't give a fig about that ridiclous Facebook page.
That goes for 99% of posters on here and about 99% of Villa supporters as a whole.

You know as well as I do that the facebook cack is totally unrepresentative.

[Toronto Villa]

I really cannot see the point of beating the shit out of this. Are people who are still staunchly against him being manager, for whatever reason going to do anything other than continuously analyze and moan for the rest of the season? The only fuel you have to continue to your argument and position is if he actually fails. Otherwise, it's over and done with. Had the club employed any other employed manager we'd have paid some form of compensation so that part in my opinion is a pointless argument. They identfied a candidate, did what they had to do and now he's in place.

You are now either going to refocus and get behind the club and hope the manager succeeds or you're going to keep on with complaining about it which is getting so exhausting. Look, almost none of us wanted him, but he's here now. Give him a chance to win you over. Is that really so much to ask?

There's always an off button, tv.  What you have to accept is that there are a significant number of fans, not least on H&V, who don't share your almost Timmy Mallet levels of enthusiasm and perkiness.  In fact, speaking for myself, I haven't felt quite so dispirited about a forthcoming season since before O'Neill arrived.  If, in the face of the McLeish appointment and the lowering of expectations, you still find reason to be incredibly positive then I salute you.  But it's unreasonable to expect everyone else to share that view, or to refrain from posting about how they do feel.  And if that means there are threads you feel you don't want to contribute to, then steer clear of them.  As much as you can't see the point in some threads, you have to accept that others do.

You couldn't have posted more bollocks if you'd tried hilts. It would be no different to me calling you an eternal miserable bastard about asll things Villa which I'd be wrong in doing. I'm not spouting optimism on this, though clearly the fact that perceive it be bothers you. Where have I been "incredibly positive"? Where have I once stated that I'd delighted with AM, and I'm really looking forward to the season. You'll do well to find one post that I've made remotely suggesting that. What you will find is several pots suggesting that we need to give the bloke a chance now that he's here.

My position is simple. We need to move on and stop whinging and fucking moaning about something we can't change. You clearly didn't read my post before jumping to your conclusion on my stance with regard to this topic. But yes feel free to contribute to another 50 pages of "oh woe is us", "everything at Villa is shit", "the board are completely incompetent", "we've settled for mid table for ever and ever". The off button seems like a good option when faced with reading that on here every day from the same old crowd.