Official - Houllier leaves by mutual consent (p.28)

[Legion]

48, surely?

[Villa'Zawg]

The last two results don't count because they were 'unexpected'.

In fact so unexpected, they should be deducted twice.

[Villanation]

houllier will not be leaving by mutal consent, because if that was the case then why did he try to provr himslf fit having having all these medical tests,

They are saying Houllier is being asked to leave in the interests of the club not in the interests of Gerard Houllier, the only delay until Wednesday is the fact they have to work out an agreeable severance payment as he as 2 years left on his contract.

[Ads]

That's just plain Ralph Wiggum stupid.

[holtepaul]

Apologies, I meant 42 points before Ars and Liverpool not 36

Anyway, the point is the same, no matter what the points / teams etc...

The fact was with two games to go, we could have gone down - for a team that less than 12 months ago had gone to Wembley twice, and finished 6th and was a whisker from getting Champions League. For a team that started to fight each other, for a team whose players started to slag off the club, for a team who had to banish players to train with the youth side, for a team who had the worst injury crisis in years (but the players actual said before the crisis occurred that they did not feel the new regime was working) ,

Shall I carry on ?

The season was a total disaster.

Luckily, and you have to give him credit, McAllister rallied the team enough to see us safe, but no matter how you look at it - it was a disaster !

I haven't got the figures to hand, but I wouldn't mind betting we earned more points per game with both KMac and GMac in charge than GH

So please don't tell me GH's tenure was nothing but a disaster- because it was !

Now, if he had stayed, he could have turned it around, remember, GT's first year in Div 1 ended with us staying up on the last day, we went on to finish runners up the next year - GH may have done the same - but he will not now, and we will never know, so he goes down in history as being as bad as an appointment as Dr Jo, Graham Turner and Co !

[Dave]

Apologies, I meant 42 points before Ars and Liverpool not 36

Anyway, the point is the same, no matter what the points / teams etc...

Wrong both ways?

[paul_e]

You dont get it do you ?

We finished on 42 points because we BEAT Liverpool and Arsenal - without those two wins we were on 36 points - even beating Liverpool and losing to Arsenal - which was expected, would have got us relegated !

Those two results kept us up !

And GH was nowhere to be seen in Birmingham at the time we got those results was he - the fact was when GH had his attack, we were in SERIOUS danger of being relegated.

GMAC for all I hate him, managed to get 7 points out of 12 in the last 4 games to see us safe - but that was not down to GH - who is to say we would have acheived these if GH was still in charge.

Listen - I like Gerard, I said many times, I think he would have got it right.

But if you think this season was anything other than an unmitigating disaster - you are sticking your blinking head in the sand !!!!

36 points with Arsenal away and Liverpool at home coming up - would you have bet your house we would have stayed up - WELL THEN !!

Look at the table - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/table/default.stm, read the column on the right hand side, then spot the obvious flaw in your argument.

Hindsight show we were already safe before getting 7 points from the last 4 games.  They just gave us a cushion and added a few £m to the bank balance.

[Ger Regan]

Oh for fuck sake, WE WOULDN'T HAVE GONE DOWN ON 42. And it wasn't a disaster. And I think I'll take my opinion on it rather than someone who appears to be unable to add and subtract.

[Chris Smith]

We had enough points to stay up after the win at West Ham. It was only over excitable types on here who were panicking over the last few weeks.

We did it because we lost only 1 of our last 8 games not because of "unexpected results".

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Interesting theory. Are we to assume MON had nothing to do with results over his four years at Villa Park as he was never at Bodymoor Heath?

Come back Robertson and Walford, all is forgiven!

[john e]

honestly i'm laughing my head of at this,
 its brilliant

[The Situation]

You dont get it do you ?

We finished on 42 points because we BEAT Liverpool and Arsenal - without those two wins we were on 36 points - even beating Liverpool and losing to Arsenal - which was expected, would have got us relegated !

Those two results kept us up !

And GH was nowhere to be seen in Birmingham at the time we got those results was he - the fact was when GH had his attack, we were in SERIOUS danger of being relegated.

GMAC for all I hate him, managed to get 7 points out of 12 in the last 4 games to see us safe - but that was not down to GH - who is to say we would have acheived these if GH was still in charge.

Listen - I like Gerard, I said many times, I think he would have got it right.

But if you think this season was anything other than an unmitigating disaster - you are sticking your blinking head in the sand !!!!

36 points with Arsenal away and Liverpool at home coming up - would you have bet your house we would have stayed up - WELL THEN !!

What?

So you're assuming Houllier would have got the same results against Stoke, Wigan and West Brom as McAllister? lol strong argument.

Only getting 2 points out of a possible 9 against the mentioned teams still would have seen us safe on 42 points.

We couldn't of been relegated on 42 points either way, the wins against Arsenal and Liverpool just meant finishing in the top half of the table.

[Louzie0]

Good luck to Gerard Houllier, I liked him. I liked his personality and I liked what he tried to achieve here in extremely hard circumstances. It did not work out and we will never see if his long term plans would have been successful. He made errors, don't we all? Especially when new to a job.

All the best to him and his family.

100% agree with this.

Yep, and me.

Me and all...

and me! 

[Legion]

Good luck to Gerard Houllier, I liked him. I liked his personality and I liked what he tried to achieve here in extremely hard circumstances. It did not work out and we will never see if his long term plans would have been successful. He made errors, don't we all? Especially when new to a job.

All the best to him and his family.

100% agree with this.

Yep, and me.

Me and all...

and me! 

Me too.

[Villanation]

Apologies, I meant 42 points before Ars and Liverpool not 36

Anyway, the point is the same, no matter what the points / teams etc...

The fact was with two games to go, we could have gone down - for a team that less than 12 months ago had gone to Wembley twice, and finished 6th and was a whisker from getting Champions League. For a team that started to fight each other, for a team whose players started to slag off the club, for a team who had to banish players to train with the youth side, for a team who had the worst injury crisis in years (but the players actual said before the crisis occurred that they did not feel the new regime was working) ,

Shall I carry on ?

The season was a total disaster.

Luckily, and you have to give him credit, McAllister rallied the team enough to see us safe, but no matter how you look at it - it was a disaster !

I haven't got the figures to hand, but I wouldn't mind betting we earned more points per game with both KMac and GMac in charge than GH

So please don't tell me GH's tenure was nothing but a disaster- because it was !

Now, if he had stayed, he could have turned it around, remember, GT's first year in Div 1 ended with us staying up on the last day, we went on to finish runners up the next year - GH may have done the same - but he will not now, and we will never know, so he goes down in history as being as bad as an appointment as Dr Jo, Graham Turner and Co !

Correct, We have endured absolute thrashings at the hands of some of the Premierships more average sides, with have had members of the squad outed in front of the press on anything to do with personal lives to weight problems to bulking up problems to players being played out of position perpetually, players being isolated and frozen out of the squad.

By a strange quirk of how this seasons Premiership has worked out 2 results got us into the top half from previously being relegation fodder just the week before.

Its been a crap season.