Official - Houllier leaves by mutual consent (p.28)

[D.boy]

Part of me wonders what might have been if he had stayed (with full health etc) but I think the right decision was made in the end. Now we need someone who will stick around and build something special.

[Concrete John]

So apart from

getting rid of high earners Carew and co and cut wages bill.
upsetting Villa fans for Liverpool Away, and FA Cup selection against Man City
Bring in two coaching staff and a chief scout (Who left after couple of months) and promote Sid.
Signing two good players Bent and Jean Makoun permanetly and Bradley and Walker on loans
Carry on developing young players

Is there anything we don't know about ie changes in training ground, methods, recruitment, etc.

getting rid of high earners Carew and co and cut wages bill.
This was as much to do with their contracts running down as anything.

upsetting Villa fans for Liverpool Away, and FA Cup selection against Man City
Sorry, is this supposed to be a good thing?

Bring in two coaching staff and a chief scout (Who left after couple of months) and promote Sid.
Again, that was necessary as Martin's staff also left with him.  And can these apointments be classed as successes given the results?
 
Signing two good players Bent and Jean Makoun permanetly and Bradley and Walker on loans
Bent and Walker I give you, but with Makoun jury still out (why not play him at the end of thr season?) and Bradley has basically failed.
 
Carry on developing young players
A good thing, but was this choice or forced by injuries?

[midnite]

Have i missed something? Has anything official been announced yet or is literally just a matter of time?

[Clampy]

Now we need someone who will stick around and build something special.

This is the main point for me, as hinted a bit earlier by someone, Ancelotti would maybe go back to Italy if a big club came in for him.

As much as we all have our own opinions on who should be boss, i would'nt like to be in Randy's shoes, it's a hell of a decision to make. As much as i like the idea of Ancelotti or Jol, i'm still undecided really.

[TheSandman]

Makoun jury still out (why not play him at the end of thr season?)

To be fair he was injured and then on leave following his wife and child being in an accident.

Though I agree the jury is still very much out.

[CJ]

On a slight tangent I presume the club will also have to pay McAllister off. Unless of course they're planning on keeping him (or worse still appointing him as new manager).

[WALTERS WARRIORS]

Aston Villa boss Houllier faces final test over potential £5m pay-off
Daily Mail 22:12 Mon, 30 May 2011

Looking ominous ?

[Concrete John]

Makoun jury still out (why not play him at the end of thr season?)

To be fair he was injured and then on leave following his wife and child being in an accident.

Though I agree the jury is still very much out.

Forgot about the family issue.  Agree that doesn't mean the jury has delivered it's verdict, but wouldn't have brought it up if I had remembered that.

[WALTERS WARRIORS]

Makoun jury still out (why not play him at the end of thr season?)

To be fair he was injured and then on leave following his wife and child being in an accident.

Though I agree the jury is still very much out.

Forgot about the family issue.  Agree that doesn't mean the jury has delivered it's verdict, but wouldn't have brought it up if I had remembered that.

Good post John M. Respect ......

[PeterWithesShin]

Assuming GH is going, I wish him well. For all that he pissed me off, Man C in the cup, his comments at Wankfield, how I felt when I left VP after the Dingles game and was convinced we were going down, I couldn't help but like him.

I'd have liked to see what he could do given more time and shaping the squad into what he wanted, player wise and playing style wise. At the same time I won't be devastated if he isn't manager next season.
But it depends who we get to replace him.

[sfx412]

Come on then Malcolm, back up your blatant bullshit and nonsense with some form of explanation. Go on, dare you, give it a go for once in your life.

What bullshit ?

Simply I don't think the management are dealing with the media well. I don't think they handled the Mon departure well, the subsequent PR re the new choice of manager well, the subsequent visit to hospital of Houllier was better, but I'd have thought it obvious Houllier returning as was was impossible, so something should have been done and earlier.

I don't think the way the story has broke, no it hasn't yes it has, no it hasn't is, satisfactory and should have been handled better.

My apologies to all if this view is not the required one on here at the moment, as Norm Crandles found over his view on selling Young, as I found with my views on Mon, and in earlier times, Graham Taylor as manager,  in time the required opinion often changes.

Whatever happens, whenever it happens, may I wish Houllier all the best in whatever choice he ultimately chooses, and that Randy makes a great choice. If of course Houllier does leave, sometime in the near future as many in the media seem confident he will, even if our PR seems to think he may not for a while.

[john e]

the thing is we have had a load of managers who have started of quite well, BFR, John Gregory, Brian Little etc even MON had a long honeymoon period,
then it all goes wobley given a bit of time.
and we start all over again

i'd rather have someone who works hard and even struggles a bit to get it right because anything where you have to go through a bit of pain is normaly longer lasting than that which comes to easy

now if your going to come in and completly change the way the team plays football, like Houllier did, then its going to take a rebuild, and a bit of time,
i think just looking at the 'horendous' season and not seeing what houllier was begining to build, ie a passing side of players more comfortable on the ball, witha more fluid style of play [ i know it wasnt always on display] is a bit short sighted

we'l never know how it would have turned out now, but i hope we can get someone in to carry it on,

[paul_e]

the thing is we have had a load of managers who have started of quite well, BFR, John Gregory, Brian Little etc even MON had a long honeymoon period,
then it all goes wobley given a bit of time.
and we start all over again

i'd rather have someone who works hard and even struggles a bit to get it right because anything where you have to go through a bit of pain is normaly longer lasting than that which comes to easy

now if your going to come in and completly change the way the team plays football, like Houllier did, then its going to take a rebuild, and a bit of time,
i think just looking at the 'horendous' season and not seeing what houllier was begining to build, ie a passing side of players more comfortable on the ball, witha more fluid style of play [ i know it wasnt always on display] is a bit short sighted

we'l never know how it would have turned out now, but i hope we can get someone in to carry it on,

Agree totally.  The one of the biggest complaints about MON was that the football was boring to watch and ineffective against teams who came looking for a point.  To change that, with half a season of not even being able to bring your own players in, isn't a quick fix.  Houllier took on the challenge and at times there were clear signs that things were better.  I think he  would have pushed that further in the summer and we'd have seen a fitter side with much better movement off the ball as a result.  As a fan who doesn't go to many games maybe it's easier to not be caught up in the emotion of days like the defeat to the dingles.

[john e]

I think that other than the signing of Bent, the reign of Houllier has been an unmitigated disaster.  Rubbish football, rubbish PR, rubbish results, rubbish defending and all sorts of baffling player decisions.  Again other than Bent, (and possibley Walker) I think all of his transfers have been crap as well.

have you cut and pasted this post,
 because its very similar to the ones you've posted about the last 3 managers at least,
and i would gurantee that come 6 months time you'l be saying exactly the same thing no matter who we get as manager, and its not going according to your plan

you had money on Villa going down under Houillier, which i'm glad to say you lost,
 but just goes to show how totaly misguided you were about what you were seeing as we finished 9th in the table that 'doesnt lie'as we kept being told by you and the rest of the doomongerers

you were all completely wrong on that one, so you might well think it was a total rubbish season, but there were some good reasons for that,
but short sighted quitters like yourself will never see it

[Concrete John]

Houllier took on the challenge and at times there were clear signs that things were better.

My problem with that was for everything you could point to and say that was better, there was two or three things you could say were worse.