Official - Houllier leaves by mutual consent (p.28)

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Sad to GH go as he is a very decent man and i liked the fact he had a plan in place to build a decent footballing team

Ancelloti - could he actually do it without the finances of Chelsea and the prestige of bringing players to London?  Remember he spunked £50m on Torres whilst letting some one like Sturridge go?

Moyes - Too dour and boring for me - another MON mid table mediocrity is acceptable manager for me

Jol - been out of work for a while now  - wonder why no one else has picked him up?

McClaren - even though he has some virtues (hungry to prove doubters wrong etc) i feel he is shot over here with the press and we would become a laughing stock


Hughes - never liked the cnut as a player and even less as a manager


Benitez - actually my least favoured of all of them

I actually would like to see Martinez from Wigan as i like the way his teams play football

Interesting Hookeysmith!
My first choice would be Moyes but he's always said he's not interested in Villa job, Hughes has got Euro stuff, Ancelotti to stay in London...but always secretly fancied Martinez (only in a wants to play good football kinda way!). Can only think he'd jump at the chance! Benitez, McLaren and Jol not in my book at all, the first 2 of those especially!!!
As someone else suggested, we need a good bloke and a 5 year plan so fans, players and everyone can see we mean business! 

[dave.woodhall]

Chelsea, Cardiff, Blackburn, even West Ham and most other clubs seem to be able to sort these matters far more efficiently.

Efficiently is an interesting choice of word, there. I'd replace with 'brutally' or 'callously'. The way Ancelotti, Allardyce and Grant were all sacked was pretty shabby, IMO. Ancelotti and Grant effectively sacked in the tunnel immediately after games, if I recall. Nasty.

The situation with Houllier is a little more sensitive and needs to be handled accordingly. The season finished just over a week ago; I'd say Villa are acting fairly swiftly and decisively here.

I would also guess they had disability discrimination legislation to contend with. Sacking someone for falling ill is a definite no-go.

[john e]

Not sure what is worse, the overly keen acceptance that a rumour is fact, how yet again the Villa management have been found wanting with their undies around their ankles or yet more uncertainty around the clubs manager.
Chelsea, Cardiff, Blackburn, even West Ham and most other clubs seem to be able to sort these matters far more efficiently.

cant believe what i'm reading here,
you have just compared Randy to that lot at Wast Ham, and found him wanting.

thats an absolute disgrace my man

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

Chelsea, Cardiff, Blackburn, even West Ham and most other clubs seem to be able to sort these matters far more efficiently.

Chelsea and Westhams 'efficiency' you can shove where the sun dont shine. I refer the honourable gentleman to my previous comments.

 If Houllier had been manager of Chelsea/Westham then Abramovich/Sullivan would have been kicking nurses out the way and pulling tubes out of him to tell him he was sacked weeks ago. Villa have a little bit more class.

[SheffieldVillain]

Not sure what is worse, the overly keen acceptance that a rumour is fact, how yet again the Villa management have been found wanting with their undies around their ankles or yet more uncertainty around the clubs manager.
Chelsea, Cardiff, Blackburn, even West Ham and most other clubs seem to be able to sort these matters far more efficiently.

Chelsea and Cardiff - sacking very good managers for doing very little wrong
Blackburn - sacking an effective manager and getting embroiled in a relegation battle
West Ham - publically humilating their manager in January by trying to replace him only to stick with him and get relegated.

How, in anyone's mind, are those four clubs examples of how to sort out uncertainty over their manager? Did you just pick the four clubs least likely to prove that you had a point?

[Chris Smith]

Not sure what is worse, the overly keen acceptance that a rumour is fact, how yet again the Villa management have been found wanting with their undies around their ankles or yet more uncertainty around the clubs manager.
Chelsea, Cardiff, Blackburn, even West Ham and most other clubs seem to be able to sort these matters far more efficiently.

cant believe what i'm reading here,
you have just compared Randy to that lot at Wast Ham, and found him wanting.

thats an absolute disgrace my man

Quite, this from a man who claimed on the General's thread yesterday to be a big defender of the board. Hypocrisy doesn't do this sort of duplicity justice.

[Diablo]

Not sold on Bilic. If we want to pay somebody £3 million a year just to do a lot of shouting, I'll happily do it.

Hahaha! Like it. If just shouting can get your team to beat Germany, Russia and England (home and away) then fair play.

[TheEgo]

Chelsea, Cardiff, Blackburn, even West Ham and most other clubs seem to be able to sort these matters far more efficiently.

Efficiently is an interesting choice of word, there. I'd replace with 'brutally' or 'callously'. The way Ancelotti, Allardyce and Grant were all sacked was pretty shabby, IMO. Ancelotti and Grant effectively sacked in the tunnel immediately after games, if I recall. Nasty.

The situation with Houllier is a little more sensitive and needs to be handled accordingly. The season finished just over a week ago; I'd say Villa are acting fairly swiftly and decisively here.

Agree with all of this. Still loads of time to get the right man in. What's saying he hasn't already been consulting? (if it's Benitez for instance, nothing stopping him talking to Villa and advising) I personally think this decision was taken a good few days ago and work has been ongoing behind the scenes to get a replacement in. Will all be sorted by the end of the week

[eastie]

what are you saying malcolm ? is your point that the story has been leaked by the press before the board released the news?

[sfx412]

They have 'acted. Then Merv ?

Looks to me they are still denying what many accept as fact and whilst I agree the way Chelsea and the others acted was not 'nice' or suited to the bleeding hearts club, it was decisive.

It is sad to see Ged go in such circumstances, but when he went into hospital his management became untenable or are there people who really feel he will remain as manager.

[mrfuse]

Im not sure Id want Hughes seems to be pretty average to me and no to Benitez.

Not that fussed about Ancelloti would have to be Moyes for me and if not him quite fancy Martinez.

Owen Coyle is another i would like but as hes only been in the Bolton job 5 minutes not sure we would get done great job their though

[Monty]

Looks to me they are still denying what many accept as fact and whilst I agree the way Chelsea and the others acted was not 'nice' or suited to the bleeding hearts club, it was decisive.

What are you, Gordon Gecko now? Alan Sugar? You sound like an executive from some evil multinational firing the 80-year-old company stalwart from a Michael Moore film.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

Chelsea, Cardiff, Blackburn, even West Ham and most other clubs seem to be able to sort these matters far more efficiently.

Efficiently is an interesting choice of word, there. I'd replace with 'brutally' or 'callously'. The way Ancelotti, Allardyce and Grant were all sacked was pretty shabby, IMO. Ancelotti and Grant effectively sacked in the tunnel immediately after games, if I recall. Nasty.

The situation with Houllier is a little more sensitive and needs to be handled accordingly. The season finished just over a week ago; I'd say Villa are acting fairly swiftly and decisively here.

I would also guess they had disability discrimination legislation to contend with. Sacking someone for falling ill is a definite no-go.

Bet it happens all the time in 2011 Britain at the other end of the job market though.

[eastie]

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[villasjf]

No to Moyes he has hit the glass ceiling that MON hit, Hughes no cause he may want to keep Ireland. The stick we have given FSW no way. How about Martinez, young up and coming and can spot a player wh is not going to cost a bomb, good style of play too.