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Offline atomicjam

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9420 on: June 16, 2011, 08:49:02 PM »
Not sure if this has been posted before, from the Birmingham Post...

Villa only have themselves to blame for fans backlash


Aston Villa are embarking on their boldest and bravest managerial appointment ever in Alex McLeish.

The club have ignored a fierce backlash from thousands of unhappy supporters and were set to install the former Blues manager as their next boss just days after he walked out their bitter rivals.

Fans forums and social networking sites have been flooded with messages begging Villa not to appoint the Scot while anti-McLeish grafitti was scrawled outside Bodymoor Heath.

A protest outside the stadium highlighted how bad the situation has got as fans turned out in force to vent their anger at the imminent appointment.
It has turned into a complete shambles – and Villa have only themselves to blame.

Two months ago they knew Gerard Houllier was unlikely to recover from his heart problems yet they made no moves to find a replacement.

The lack of preparation has had a dramatic knock-on effect and now the people who dip into their pockets every week to follow the club across the country are turning against them.

Having no Plan B has left them in a pickle ever since Roberto Martinez turned down the job to stay at Premier League minnows Wigan. The Spaniard was the number one choice for the role and many expected him to jump at the chance to further his blossoming managerial career.

Had he taken on the job he would have had the backing of the fans, even if many thought he lacked the necessary experience. But he showed a remarkable amount of loyalty to stay at the DW Stadium and rejected a move to the Midlands.

It was a blow to Villa owner Randy Lerner and something he was not expecting or there would surely have been something else in the pipeline.

But no, there wasn’t. Carlo Ancelotti and Rafa Benitez were already out of the running and David Moyes has no reason to leave Everton for a club of equal size.

Mark Hughes’ exit from Fulham didn’t sit pretty with the Villa heirachy and new Nottingham Forest manager Steve McClaren didn’t even make it to the interview stage.

With so few options available to them, Villa convinced themselves McLeish is the best option.

They believe he ticks all the boxes despite his spell in charge at St Andrew’s, which included two relegation campaigns.

“We are determined, still, not to allow that three-and-a-half year post to disqualify him (McLeish) should he be the best candidate for the role of Aston Villa manager,” read a Villa statement.

But no matter what Villa say or do, there is just no pleasing the fans on this appointment.

They simply cannot warm to the idea of the 52-year-old leading their club.

Yet the owners have made it clear they are focussed on finding the best man for the job, which in their eyes is now McLeish.

If, as seems almost certain, McLeish is appointed the only way forward for Villa is for the fans to give the club their full backing as the team has no chance of success with unrest on the terraces.

As unpopular as McLeish is, his record as a player and a manager is impressive. He’s a winner and is hungry to succeed.

He guided Blues to their first trophy in 48 years when they lifted the Carling Cup earlier this year and he also won two SPL titles, two Scottish Cups and three League Cups during his time at Rangers.

And you have to admire his courage for taking on the Villa job despite the ferocious backlash from Villa fans.

It at least shows he has nerves of steel and the appetite for a challenge.

Because make no bones about it, getting Villa fans on his side will be the biggest challenge of his career.

Blues, meanwhile, are still seething at the manner of his exit, accusing Villa of “tapping up” their manager.

They were planning to lodge a formal complaint as they believe Villa broke Premier League and FA rules by announcing on Tuesday they planned to interview McLeish.

Acting chairman Peter Pannu is livid about the whole situation and remains intent on sorting out the issue despite the fact pre-season training resumes in three weeks.

And the fact that Blues are managerless seems to have been pushed into the background as the McLeish saga rumbles on.

They have at least six names in the frame to replace McLeish with Gianfranco Zola, Chris Hughton and Roberto Di Matteo understood to be high in their thoughts.

For their sake, and for Villa’s sake, this sordid Second City football dispute needs to be sorted out quickly or both teams could suffer.

http://www.birminghampost.net/midlands-birmingham-sport/west-midlands-sports/aston-villa-fc/2011/06/16/villa-only-have-themselves-to-blame-for-fans-backlash-65233-28886414/

Offline TonyD

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9421 on: June 16, 2011, 08:49:04 PM »
Kendrick tweeting that the £2m compo story is nonsense.

Lots of rubbish floating around the wires at the moment.

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9422 on: June 16, 2011, 08:49:39 PM »
Can't see Mcliesh being sacked this season however bad he does. Lerner has made such an issue of appointing him that i reckon he'd keep his job until the end of the season even if it means relegation.

Offline kipeye

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9423 on: June 16, 2011, 08:49:44 PM »
Is it still safe to say we still have only rumour, speculation and the media to go on?
Think I'm just going to keep posting this until it happens.

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9424 on: June 16, 2011, 08:49:55 PM »
Just because we've appointed McLeish doesn't mean we're looking for mid table finishes. I'm feeling the need to stay off Villa related forums. The whole anti-McLeish, anti-Randy, anti-Villa stuff is getting to me.

I can assure you, not half as much as the appointment of McLeish is getting to me.

Offline Mazrim

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9425 on: June 16, 2011, 08:50:02 PM »
I've actually changed my mind. This appointment is absolute genius. Think about it, we Villans rarely agree on the colour of shite (well, apart from that its blue and white) but now we're all in unison. Brilliant!

Offline David_Nab

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9426 on: June 16, 2011, 08:52:47 PM »
The way I am looking at it is win/ win

If he is succesfull then sure I look silly for moaning now but my team is doing well
If he is shit I get to say ''I told you so'

Right now I just want him to come in ,sort the squad buy sell etc then get the season going and see what he has to offer.What I do wonder is if this goes bad will that be the end of Randy.The mood of the fans is bad now but if they are proved right to be against this appointment than I suspect Randy is going to be subjected to the sort of abuse I throught only Doug was ever likely to be recieving

Offline richard moore

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9427 on: June 16, 2011, 08:55:49 PM »
It wouldn't half make for some great reading on here if he now went and won his half a dozen games or so....

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9428 on: June 16, 2011, 08:56:47 PM »
The way I am looking at it is win/ win

If he is succesfull then sure I look silly for moaning now but my team is doing well
If he is shit I get to say ''I told you so'

Right now I just want him to come in ,sort the squad buy sell etc then get the season going and see what he has to offer.What I do wonder is if this goes bad will that be the end of Randy.The mood of the fans is bad now but if they are proved right to be against this appointment than I suspect Randy is going to be subjected to the sort of abuse I throught only Doug was ever likely to be recieving


trouble is, if he's shit you could telling him "i told you so" from the Championship

Offline E I Adio

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9429 on: June 16, 2011, 08:57:13 PM »
Nice to think H and V will get back to some semblance of normality after the weekend - it has got far too much like VT these last few days and I have been sticking well clear of it for that very reason...

Yes, I'd almost forgotten what an enormous steaming pile of shite VT is.

Offline Eigentor

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9430 on: June 16, 2011, 08:58:08 PM »
Any one think the £2m is something to do with the fact we may want a couple of players from them. Therefore we needed to get back on decent terms with them?


Great. Not content with getting their shite manager we then go back and poach half the squad that got them relegated. Have to hand it to Randy, thats a masterplan no-one else would have thought of.

It's no masterplan. The board had a shortlist of managers with PL experience and have steadily worked their way downwards. As decent managers (like Benitez) said "No, thanks", we turned to those who almost relegated their teams (like Martinez), and finally we had to ask those who were relegated. We're lucky McLeish accepted the post. Otherwise we would have appointed Avram Grant.

Offline Villanation

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9431 on: June 16, 2011, 08:58:25 PM »
Not sure if this has been posted before, from the Birmingham Post...

Villa only have themselves to blame for fans backlash


Aston Villa are embarking on their boldest and bravest managerial appointment ever in Alex McLeish.

The club have ignored a fierce backlash from thousands of unhappy supporters and were set to install the former Blues manager as their next boss just days after he walked out their bitter rivals.

Fans forums and social networking sites have been flooded with messages begging Villa not to appoint the Scot while anti-McLeish grafitti was scrawled outside Bodymoor Heath.

A protest outside the stadium highlighted how bad the situation has got as fans turned out in force to vent their anger at the imminent appointment.
It has turned into a complete shambles – and Villa have only themselves to blame.

Two months ago they knew Gerard Houllier was unlikely to recover from his heart problems yet they made no moves to find a replacement.

The lack of preparation has had a dramatic knock-on effect and now the people who dip into their pockets every week to follow the club across the country are turning against them.

Having no Plan B has left them in a pickle ever since Roberto Martinez turned down the job to stay at Premier League minnows Wigan. The Spaniard was the number one choice for the role and many expected him to jump at the chance to further his blossoming managerial career.

Had he taken on the job he would have had the backing of the fans, even if many thought he lacked the necessary experience. But he showed a remarkable amount of loyalty to stay at the DW Stadium and rejected a move to the Midlands.

It was a blow to Villa owner Randy Lerner and something he was not expecting or there would surely have been something else in the pipeline.

But no, there wasn’t. Carlo Ancelotti and Rafa Benitez were already out of the running and David Moyes has no reason to leave Everton for a club of equal size.

Mark Hughes’ exit from Fulham didn’t sit pretty with the Villa heirachy and new Nottingham Forest manager Steve McClaren didn’t even make it to the interview stage.

With so few options available to them, Villa convinced themselves McLeish is the best option.

They believe he ticks all the boxes despite his spell in charge at St Andrew’s, which included two relegation campaigns.

We are determined, still, not to allow that three-and-a-half year post to disqualify him (McLeish) should he be the best candidate for the role of Aston Villa manager,” read a Villa statement.

But no matter what Villa say or do, there is just no pleasing the fans on this appointment.

They simply cannot warm to the idea of the 52-year-old leading their club.

Yet the owners have made it clear they are focussed on finding the best man for the job, which in their eyes is now McLeish.

If, as seems almost certain, McLeish is appointed the only way forward for Villa is for the fans to give the club their full backing as the team has no chance of success with unrest on the terraces.

As unpopular as McLeish is, his record as a player and a manager is impressive. He’s a winner and is hungry to succeed.

He guided Blues to their first trophy in 48 years when they lifted the Carling Cup earlier this year and he also won two SPL titles, two Scottish Cups and three League Cups during his time at Rangers.

And you have to admire his courage for taking on the Villa job despite the ferocious backlash from Villa fans.

It at least shows he has nerves of steel and the appetite for a challenge.

Because make no bones about it, getting Villa fans on his side will be the biggest challenge of his career.

Blues, meanwhile, are still seething at the manner of his exit, accusing Villa of “tapping up” their manager.

They were planning to lodge a formal complaint as they believe Villa broke Premier League and FA rules by announcing on Tuesday they planned to interview McLeish.

Acting chairman Peter Pannu is livid about the whole situation and remains intent on sorting out the issue despite the fact pre-season training resumes in three weeks.

And the fact that Blues are managerless seems to have been pushed into the background as the McLeish saga rumbles on.

They have at least six names in the frame to replace McLeish with Gianfranco Zola, Chris Hughton and Roberto Di Matteo understood to be high in their thoughts.

For their sake, and for Villa’s sake, this sordid Second City football dispute needs to be sorted out quickly or both teams could suffer.

http://www.birminghampost.net/midlands-birmingham-sport/west-midlands-sports/aston-villa-fc/2011/06/16/villa-only-have-themselves-to-blame-for-fans-backlash-65233-28886414/


Can you believe that anybody in a position of such responsibilty can make such in inept statement. How do these blokes make the money they do????

He's not the best candidate out there,  and how do you ignore a track record of relagation and hopeless football.

Offline Bottom Right 89

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9432 on: June 16, 2011, 09:01:29 PM »

I thought this clip may be appropriate. Good luck Big Eck.
Brilliant - Best of luck Alex, get straight to work and stop Stewart Downing from leaving.

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9433 on: June 16, 2011, 09:01:56 PM »
Any one think the £2m is something to do with the fact we may want a couple of players from them. Therefore we needed to get back on decent terms with them?


Great. Not content with getting their shite manager we then go back and poach half the squad that got them relegated. Have to hand it to Randy, thats a masterplan no-one else would have thought of.

It's no masterplan. The board had a shortlist of managers with PL experience and have steadily worked their way downwards. As decent managers (like Benitez) said "No, thanks", we turned to those who almost relegated their teams (like Martinez), and finally we had to ask those who were relegated. We're lucky McLeish accepted the post. Otherwise we would have appointed Avram Grant.

I'm not sure we even asked Benetiz. I reckon Martinez was as good as it got on the shortlist.

Offline TonyD

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Re: Who Should be Aston Villa Manager ? Now with new, revised poll
« Reply #9434 on: June 16, 2011, 09:02:21 PM »
I never really bought into to the idea that the press didnt't like us but this week has been an eye opener.  As above how so called writers can suggest that AM has the PL pedigree for us is beyond all reason.

 


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