Sack the Manager?

[Chris Smith]

In the post match thread v Blackburn I poosted that we were WOEFUL for the first 40 mins
Are you disputing that ?

We had a decent 2nd half with some very good individual moments (Delph pass) & performances (NRC)

No, I am saying that you are now trying to pretend that the second half was "average" when in the post match thread you were using words like "awesome" and "excellent". We played very well against Blackburn and to suggest anything else just makes you look a div. In the same way that we played really badly on Saturday.

As others have pointed out to you, there is no need to rewrite history there is enough real stuff to be unhappy about without inventing things just to try to score points on a website.

[WikiVilla]

Scoring points ? what like you selectively taking snippets of my old posts

Tell you what lets park this and agree to disagree

[Stu]

the players have not put in the performances they should have, especially the so called seniors.

They are paid very handsomely to be professionals in their field.....it's about time they stood up and took their fair share of the blame for the position we are in.

Yep, and its been the more senior players at the club who have been the most guilty - they ought to be ashamed of themselves. Houllier acting bizarrely at Anfield and chucking the FA Cup in the bin hasn't helped at all, but the arguments, strops and public fall-outs with the coaching staff by a few of the senior first team players have had just as bad an effect on team morale.

Reading various media reports and looking at comments on here, it is clear that the team didn't really give a shit about the Wolves game. Why can't the manager motivate the side against a local rival in just as much shit as we are? Why weren't the players at least trying during this game? I'm just glad I spent my hard-earned doing something else this weekend.

[koreanmeatballs]

He has quite clearly been fucking atrocious.

We have in parts played good football however we have also played some truly horrific stuff.
 
Our best performance of the season, footballing wise was against Wet Spam.  KMac was in charge, then oversaw us play some truly horrific stuff, yet not many people wanted him to stay on or God forbid 'give him the summer.'

Just look at Houllier winning %. All the excuses to the side, he has just been shit. 

He has also managed to spend, incl. wages etc, around 24-28 million quid on the team. Yet he has managed to get us 3 points above Wigan in March.

Why on earth should we give him the summer? He has done nothing to deserve it.

We should of sacked him today, we haven't so he is here till the bitter end, that end being relegation.

Will the 9 or 10 people here be happy if we are relegated?

[1780liam]

Fucking 9 votes unbelieveable

1 of those was Houllier himself.
1 was Mac
1 was pires
3 clicked the wrong one by mistake!
and 3 are fooking idiots!!!

I didn't click by mistake and I hope you don't mean that I am an idiot, I just dont see the manager having to take the flak alone, the players have not put in the performances they should have, especially the so called seniors.

They are paid very handsomely to be professionals in their field.....it's about time they stood up and took their fair share of the blame for the position we are in.

I take onboard what your saying, however, who is responsible for team selection, positioning, tactics, motivation of these overpaid professionals??.... The Manager!!
Who is responsible for the bizare and sometimes insulting comments regarding the club he makes to the media?
Who inherited a team finishing 6th 3 seasons in a row, granted not under the ideal circumstances, alianates the fans, divides the squad, surrenders cups, and unless immediate intervention, gets them relegated... all in 7 months!! IMO he has to go NOW!!!
But if you think he deserves an arm around the shoulder and an "it's not your fault", than thats your opinion of which your entitled to!

[MarkM]

This time last year we had 50 points and were looking up at the top four

Now we have 30 points and are looking at relegation

So what's changed?

[TopDeck113]

Well, I've just logged on and gather Houllier's still our manager.

For all his faults, Doug would have watched Saturday's performance, read the runes and taken him for a walk around his rose garden this morning, regardless of the fact that there's not a bloom to be seen.

In fact, with a big dollop of hindsight I would say that for all the new customer-friendly PR that comes out of Villa Park post-HDE, when it came to the big decision, Doug usually acted at the right moment.   Of all the managers he sacked (as oppose to those who couldn't work with him any longer and resigned...), perhaps the only one he got spectacularly wrong was Tony Barton.

[Stu]

Will the 9 or 10 people are here be happy if we are relegated?

Where does it end though? If we get someone else in and certain players won't play for him either, what then? What if the next bloke can't get the fans onside, who next? I'm not happy with results but at this stage of the season making a huge change - again - would be a huge gamble considering how low the confidence is within the squad.

Would you rather be relegated without Houllier or with him? Its just as much a hypothetical question as yours.

[Stu]

Well, I've just logged on and gather Houllier's still our manager.

For all his faults, Doug would have watched Saturday's performance, read the runes and taken him for a walk around his rose garden this morning, regardless of the fact that there's not a bloom to be seen.

In fact, with a big dollop of hindsight I would say that for all the new customer-friendly PR that comes out of Villa Park post-HDE, when it came to the big decision, Doug usually acted at the right moment.   Of all the managers he sacked (as oppose to those who couldn't work with him any longer and resigned...), perhaps the only one he got spectacularly wrong was Tony Barton.

Don't forget some of the utter dross he appointed as well though, on the cheap.

He got rid of some managers at the right time and hired some wrong people at the wrong time.

[Clampy]

Will the 9 or 10 people are here be happy if we are relegated?

  I'm not happy with results but at this stage of the season making a huge change - again - would be a huge gamble considering how low the confidence is within the squad.

Mind you, would'nt it be even more of a gamble to expect a manager to suddenly lead us to 4 wins out of the last 8, when he's only managed 6 league wins since September?

[Legion]

I assume that 16.3 % posting on here are Blues fans.

Keep Right On!

[Legion]

or: all 9 of them are grown-up people who happen to disagree with you.

Spot on, Damon. It's 38 now. Fcuking unbelievable.

[Stu]

Will the 9 or 10 people are here be happy if we are relegated?

  I'm not happy with results but at this stage of the season making a huge change - again - would be a huge gamble considering how low the confidence is within the squad.

Mind you, would'nt it be even more of a gamble to expect a manager to suddenly lead us to 4 wins out of the last 8, when he's only managed 6 league wins since September?

I don't know, what do you think should happen? He's not going anywhere anyway.

[ozzjim]

Thing is the sensible, non emotional view would be to stick, give him a bollocking, get the 2-3 wins to stay up and then fire him come the summer.

[koreanmeatballs]

Will the 9 or 10 people are here be happy if we are relegated?

Where does it end though? If we get someone else in and certain players won't play for him either, what then? What if the next bloke can't get the fans onside, who next?I'm not happy with results but at this stage of the season making a huge change - again - would be a huge gamble considering how low the confidence is within the squad.

Would you rather be relegated without Houllier or with him? Its just as much a hypothetical question as yours.

I'd rather be relegated without him, I'd rather he not be near our club anymore or have any decision making ability inside Aston Villa. He is clearly not a very good manager for Aston Villa.