Sack the Manager?

[ozzjim]

Risso, I understand the constant bleating on Houllier and for the first time this season agree with some of it, but having a pop at Randy and Faulkner IMO is a bit off. Faulkner has managed to broker deals for Bent and Makoun, two highly rated footballers in Jan so deserves a little bit of slack for that, and Lerner should have enough in the bank to save him from taking pelters.

Houllier though... hmmmm.

The Albrighton for Gabby move I was calling for on Sat, but with Gabby through the middle not out wide. Makoun staying on was wrong when Reo Coker was the only one with fight and passion in him.

[Concrete John]

its not the sacking of Houllier that worries me, its the replacement,
if we feel we are in desperate trouble, we might do desperate things,

i strongly disagree with the posters who blindly say 'i dont care who it is. anyone is better than Houllier' because that is not the case.
we could end up staying up under say Alladyce, then having to put up with 2/3 seasons of hoof ball with crowds between 20/25k, but we would have no fear of going down, because we would be a rich mans Stoke,
and the prems where its all at !!  load of balls

  no thanks,  i'd rather take the risk of relegation than that

We're talking short term appointment and then get the RIGHT manager in the summer, so it really shouldn't be an issue what type of football said manager plays for the 8 games. 

[MarkM]

Will Lerner still "have enough in the bank" if we go down?

[Concrete John]

Risso, I understand the constant bleating on Houllier and for the first time this season agree with some of it, but having a pop at Randy and Faulkner IMO is a bit off. Faulkner has managed to broker deals for Bent and Makoun, two highly rated footballers in Jan so deserves a little bit of slack for that, and Lerner should have enough in the bank to save him from taking pelters.

The only accusation I'd throw at the board is the seeming lack of desire/ambition they showed when going through the proces of replacing MON.  Now, we all know the timing wasn't great, but even then the whole 'waiting to see who applied' thing just seemed wrong to me.  The best managers, whether in a job or not, won't 'apply' for a job - they need to be approached. 

We needed to be more ruthless and decide who we WANTED and then go get them. 

[Cuz]

Fucking 9 votes unbelieveable

[Cuz]

I think Randy should take responsability for the appointment of Houlier and Mac, but he now has to act and sack the pair now.

[Concrete John]

Fucking 9 votes unbelieveable

I didn't vote for it, but I do actually expect next season to be better if we survive and he stays.  It won't be good enough and I'll still want him gone, but it will be better.

[MarkM]

Lets face it, we are on a terminal velocity!

We can't score
We can't defend
Our manager looks and sounds like he has given up and is just hoping that lady luck will shine on him and fix anything
The board are procrastinating when action is needed
The team looks not to have the fight to get us out of it [it seems to me that they think they are too good to go down]
And I have reservations that we could bounce straight back as our financial situation is not great and would get worse if we were relegated

[pauliewalnuts]

Fucking 9 votes unbelieveable

It's a lot easier when you come to terms with the fact that not everybody is going to agree with you.

Personally, I think he should go, but I can also say that I like the football he at least tries to get us playing, and he probably would do much better next season.

The issue is, I think we'll be in the second flight next season if he stays.

[Merv]

The only accusation I'd throw at the board is the seeming lack of desire/ambition they showed when going through the proces of replacing MON.  Now, we all know the timing wasn't great, but even then the whole 'waiting to see who applied' thing just seemed wrong to me.  The best managers, whether in a job or not, won't 'apply' for a job - they need to be approached. 

We needed to be more ruthless and decide who we WANTED and then go get them. 

I agree with that. I don't believe we got the best available - we got someone who applied for the position. There's a big difference. And I don't think I'm alone in saying 12 months ago, if asked for a list 20 managers to approach to succeed MON, Houllier wouldn't have been on it. He wouldn't even have sprung to mind.

But the board have appointed him, backed him heavily in the January transfer window, and I can't see him going anywhere.

[1780liam]

Fucking 9 votes unbelieveable

1 of those was Houllier himself.
1 was Mac
1 was pires
3 clicked the wrong one by mistake!
and 3 are fooking idiots!!!

[Rigadon]

Regardless of whether we survive now, he's been a disaster.  Divided the players and fans for large parts of the season and has lowered expectation further than David O Leary did.  As Dave Woodhall's article hinted towards, the fact it's taken so long for a lot of people to voice their concerns shows "we're not fickle" in the main. 

[damon loves JT]

or: all 9 of them are grown-up people who happen to disagree with you.

[Cuz]

Looks like one of his quotes, so you like passionless losing football, i would like 2 wingers and 3 centreforwards but it wouldn't work,  even when we beat Blackburn the 1st half was shocking 'trying to play football' I'm sorry but NO sorry Paulie as a Villa fan he is destroying us and taking us back years, he's completely cuckoo

Fucking 9 votes unbelieveable

It's a lot easier when you come to terms with the fact that not everybody is going to agree with you.

Personally, I think he should go, but I can also say that I like the football he at least tries to get us playing, and he probably would do much better next season.

The issue is, I think we'll be in the second flight next season if he stays.

[Cuz]

But how or why what have they seen i haven't ....tell me because i can't work it out...baffling

or: all 9 of them are grown-up people who happen to disagree with you.