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Offline KevinGage

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Re: Sack the Manager?
« Reply #435 on: March 21, 2011, 05:04:04 PM »
That's where we might differ.

I'd be more confident of another figure (Kevin Mac or other) delivering it, but it's possible even GH could oversee the two wins I think we'll need to stay up.

The latter scenario is admittedly based increasingly more on hope than expectation, and part of that hope is that (a) other teams around (or more specifically below) us continue to be shite, and (b) sides like Stoke or Newcastle might come to VP and 'do a Blackburn.'  Any side that comes to our place and actually gives it a go as Wolves did and we may well be facked.

I understand the argument for not wanting anymore uncertainty or upheaval in the camp at this point in the season, I genuinely do. But come the summer there really will be no excuse for continuing with the present management.

If it was Faulkner who was responsible for the appointment I wouldn't be distraught to see him depart either.  It was such a woeful decision in hindsight, going for a guy in semi retirement and placing our league status in jeopardy.
« Last Edit: March 21, 2011, 05:05:46 PM by KevinGage »

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Re: Sack the Manager?
« Reply #436 on: March 21, 2011, 05:10:14 PM »
or: all 9 of them are grown-up people who happen to disagree with you.


actually i'm one of them, and not very grown up to be truthfull

Offline damon loves JT

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Re: Sack the Manager?
« Reply #437 on: March 21, 2011, 05:11:23 PM »
or: all 9 of them are grown-up people who happen to disagree with you.


actually i'm one of them, and not very grown up to be truthfull


OK. 8 grown-ups and John the Baptist

Offline TonyD

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Re: Sack the Manager?
« Reply #438 on: March 21, 2011, 05:13:11 PM »
Sometimes you have to know when to let go of the ballon.

RL that time is NOW.

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Re: Sack the Manager?
« Reply #439 on: March 21, 2011, 05:16:52 PM »
its not the sacking of Houllier that worries me, its the replacement,
if we feel we are in desperate trouble, we might do desperate things,

i strongly disagree with the posters who blindly say 'i dont care who it is. anyone is better than Houllier' because that is not the case.
we could end up staying up under say Alladyce, then having to put up with 2/3 seasons of hoof ball with crowds between 20/25k, but we would have no fear of going down, because we would be a rich mans Stoke,
and the prems where its all at !!  load of balls

  no thanks,  i'd rather take the risk of relegation than that



We're talking short term appointment and then get the RIGHT manager in the summer, so it really shouldn't be an issue what type of football said manager plays for the 8 games. 


you can talk about what you like on here,. but Randy probably wont read it for advice.
you dont know what they will do if Houllier goes before the end of the season, they might not like the idea of a short term man, and  even if they do appoint Alladyce 'short term' and he keeps us up. he will be here for a more long term stay, and thets what bothers me

if we get some one good like Owen Coyle, then i'd be all for it.but at the moment i'd rather stick with what we have and take the chance, i also believe Houllier will be better next season, but thats just crystal ball stuff.

i realise that some people like 'direct' football managers, so its all very subjective, but like i say its the replacement that worries me rather than the sacking

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Re: Sack the Manager?
« Reply #440 on: March 21, 2011, 05:17:03 PM »
It shows how desperate we've become when people keep crowing on about an average 30 minutes against an unbelievably woeful blackburn side

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Re: Sack the Manager?
« Reply #441 on: March 21, 2011, 05:18:24 PM »
or: all 9 of them are grown-up people who happen to disagree with you.


actually i'm one of them, and not very grown up to be truthfull


OK. 8 grown-ups and John the Baptist

might change my user name to that, and hope for a few miracles

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Re: Sack the Manager?
« Reply #442 on: March 21, 2011, 05:21:55 PM »
You only get the miracles if you live on locusts, wear a horsehair shirt and stay clear of lap dancing clubs where your napper is likely to become le plat du jour.

Offline eastie

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Re: Sack the Manager?
« Reply #443 on: March 21, 2011, 05:26:29 PM »
I notice when randy gets criticised some people take umbrage to this - ultimately although he has shown great ambition at the club, he was the one who sanctioned the huge wages and who after a long delay decided on houllier, so I see every justification for randy to face come criticism for the situation.

There are many reasons for this mess and randy is not blameless.

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Re: Sack the Manager?
« Reply #444 on: March 21, 2011, 05:35:13 PM »
It shows how desperate we've become when people keep crowing on about an average 30 minutes against an unbelievably woeful blackburn side

Are you related to the Wiki who posted this on the post match thread by any chance?


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NRC absolute class today MOM hope he stays



Delph looks quality, I was in north std lower directly behind that ball he played down the line to albrighton, great ball and worth the admission money alone. It was like a golf shot with a slight draw on the ball.

Dunne excellent as was Clark and I owe an apology to Pires.

Ashley young was awesome 2nd half

Offline WikiVilla

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Re: Sack the Manager?
« Reply #445 on: March 21, 2011, 05:39:25 PM »
Yes, largely based on the 2nd half.
If you want/have the time to sift through my posts fine, dig out the ones where I comment about the atrocious opening 40 mins

Offline WikiVilla

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Re: Sack the Manager?
« Reply #446 on: March 21, 2011, 05:47:49 PM »
Here's the bit you selectively missed out you crafty old sod -

Ok reality check due, let's remember the first 40 mins were woeful, play like that on Wednesday and we'll be 3 or 4 down before we get into gear

 


& correctly we got pummelled by CiŁy before we got going

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Re: Sack the Manager?
« Reply #447 on: March 21, 2011, 05:55:56 PM »
Here's the bit you selectively missed out you crafty old sod -

Ok reality check due, let's remember the first 40 mins were woeful, play like that on Wednesday and we'll be 3 or 4 down before we get into gear

 


& correctly we got pummelled by CiŁy before we got going

So now you are claiming that we were "woeful" for 40 mins and "average" for 30, what about the other 20?

I'd also like to know how 1 x class + 2 x excellent + 1 x quality + 1 x awesome = average.

Just be honest you're modifying your views to suit the stance you are adopting this week.

Offline WikiVilla

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Re: Sack the Manager?
« Reply #448 on: March 21, 2011, 05:58:06 PM »
In the post match thread v Blackburn I posted that we were WOEFUL for the first 40 mins
Are you disputing that ????

We had a decent 2nd half with some very good individual moments (Delph pass) & performances (NRC)
« Last Edit: March 21, 2011, 06:06:13 PM by WikiVilla »

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Re: Sack the Manager?
« Reply #449 on: March 21, 2011, 06:05:27 PM »
Fucking 9 votes unbelieveable

1 of those was Houllier himself.
1 was Mac
1 was pires
3 clicked the wrong one by mistake!
and 3 are fooking idiots!!!

I didn't click by mistake and I hope you don't mean that I am an idiot, I just dont see the manager having to take the flak alone, the players have not put in the performances they should have, especially the so called seniors.

They are paid very handsomely to be professionals in their field.....it's about time they stood up and took their fair share of the blame for the position we are in.

 


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