Sack the Manager?

[Percy McCarthy]

How about this for a scenario that would suit all parties.

It is obvious Lerner thinks that Villa needs rebuilding from top to bottom.

So, we take Houllier upstairs in a "Director of Football" type role. He can oversee restructuring the scouting, negotiate for targets, all that stuff.

We then appoint someone line Martin Jol, or similar as Head coach. He worked that system at Spurs and Ajax.

Houllier is not sacked - he saves face
Lerner doesn't admit he made a mistake - he saves face
We get a new manager - fans are happy.

Worth a punt !

Gets my vote

Not mine, if we get rid, then get rid.
If the players are not keen on him, there's no point having his mug around the place, in whatever capacity.

Agreed.

Jol and Hughton sound about the best we could hope for to me. Think we need a double-act who can watch each other's back if they're going to take on some of the jackals currently defrauding our club out of £50k a week.

[eastie]

I think if houllier was dof he would want to appoint the coach - coyle , jol , Hughes , all would be tempted if we stay up I think.

The advantage of Hughes being we have here 4 of his ex players in Ireland, dunne , warnock and friedal and he seems a good man manager but I doubt he would take us any further than mon did.

I do think moyes will part with everton and seek a new challenge in the summer and coyle would see villa as a big step up from Bolton , so there would be options if we stay up and are prepared to approach other managers in employment.

[Chris Smith]

Appointing Fat Sam would be an admission that we had settled for always being amongst the also rans. If we have to change make it a progressive one.

[Des Little]

I wish we could get Colin Wanker in just for 8 games.  Then we'd see some fight.

[jembob]

No to Big Sam. Grayson or Hughes we could get now rather than wait till the end of the season.

Our problem is short term and measures taken need to reflect that. Houllier and his team have clearly lost the respect of the squad, many of whom will now already be getting their names out into the transfer market thinking that we may go down. Can Houllier turn it around? - not in my opinion and he continues to make really bad decisions. I would like to think that I have given him a fair chance but after yesterday's performance and result feel that he will not succeed in keeping us up. Our team have no confidence and look like they have already given up. For a talented team like ours to be beaten by such a poor outfit as Wolves is shameful.

We need a caretaker manager who can rebuild confidence and give the team a bit of a bounce. All we need are 3 or 4 wins and to secure the defence so that we can earn a few decent away draws and we'll survive. I can't see us earning any more points under Houllier.

[simboy]

I have struggled with this over a long period of time - enthused by results against Chelski Citeh (home) Manure Blackburn Wigan - totally depressed by Sunderland, Dingles, the Arse, Red Scouse and our lack of effort at Eastlands on two occasions

but I think that the real thing that does it for me is that our performance yesterday demonstrated to me that the management and the players havent learnt over the season

They havent learnt that Ashley Young isnt the new Beckenbauer shouldnt go anywhere near the centre-half position but is a decent winger who cuts in and creates from wide positions - his influence in the middle of the park is nothing to match Milner of last year. A need to ditch the 4-4-1-1 or find ourself a new Libero

 Our plan B (if it is really a plan B) is to put Gabby on the left wing - why? hes  not a winger, frustrates by his lack of control on the ball to feet and lack of ability to beat a player, his pace is negated by the playing of the ball to his feet instead of getting on the last defender and outchasing him to a ball over the top of the defender or a knock on by his partner in attack.

Plan C is put the centre halfs up to knock the ball on to ...ummmmm.... well theres another issue -  well before the plan C option is unveilled and Albrighton or Downing have the ball in a position to put the ball in to the penalty spot/six yard box how many times are our front man/men not there? how many times do we see our attacking forces making front post and far post runs in tandem?

I have a little sympathy with the fact that we have injuries, that the club has been zonally marking thoroughout all teams and it will take a little time for them to get the defenders to think it naturally but I dont see why we cant sort out the real basics and what I saw from my position in the Holte against Sunderland in January shouldnt be repeated against Wolves in March.

The club clearly needs an overhaul from top to bottom we are told - but do I want the man who is supposed to be responsible for success on the pitch to be that man? No I want him sorting out the tactics, fitness and footballing skills of the first team!

Get rid at the end of the season - stay up or not 

 

[cdbearsfan]

I've been undecided on Houllier for some time but I think if I find out he's been sacked I will be pleased now.

[Risso]

No to Big Sam. Grayson or Hughes we could get now rather than wait till the end of the season.

There's no way Grayson would leave them in the lurch at this stage.

[eastie]

Big Sam long term -no.

Big Sam for 8 games with a £1m bonus for keeping us up - yes.


Coyle, hughes, jol/hughton,moyes, magath in the summer - any of those please.

[Risso]

Appointing Fat Sam would be an admission that we had settled for always being amongst the also rans. If we have to change make it a progressive one.

I wouldn't go for Allardyce purely because I think he'd want to be here long term, which I wouldn't want.  If it was just for 8 games to keep us up, then I'd definitely have him over Houllier though.  I've seen more fight in my two kids arguing over toys than Houllier has shown, and that's going to take us down if it isn't rectified.

Jol would be a good choice though, and he's the man I think we should have gone for in the first place.  Ticks all the boxes for me, knows the English game, plays decent football, and I reckon he could whip the team into shape sufficiently to keep us up.  Mark Hughes whose name seems to keep coming up is far more a purveyor of "anti-football" than Allardyce in my opinion.

[WikiVilla]

I've put a bottle of Cava in the fridge for when the guillotine falls

[ez]

Big Sam long term -no.

Big Sam for 8 games with a £1m bonus for keeping us up - yes.


Coyle, hughes, jol/hughton,moyes, magath in the summer - any of those please.

I'd go for that. Big Sam as caretaker to keep us up and trouser a large cheque then a new manager for next season. I have a feeling Houllier will clear off at the end of the season anyway.

[JUAN PABLO]

Thought Magath was going back to wolfsburg

[eastie]

Magath has gone to Wolfsburg but we should be looking at all options not just the unemployed, and he along with others should be under consideration.

[Clampy]

If we're going to sack him, it needs to be done now we have a two week break. I know a lot of players will be on international duty but at least they'll have a new manager with fresh ideas to come back to.

Oh and let's get Fonz, Bannan and Carew back whilst we're at it.