Sack the Manager?

[Risso]

Martin Jol would do until the end of the season.

[freakypete]

sack houllier now.... get big ron in till end of season....ok hes past his best but he atleast will add some sparkle and enthusiasm.....then lets get mark hughes in anythings worth a try.... lets be honest we are going down without a fight at the moment

[ez]

Sacking him now would just cause even more unrest, I don't think it would help. As for Allardyce, in all seriousness I would rather be relegated than have that c*** managing my club.

I was with you on the first bit yesterday, Chris, but having seen the way we performed, and thinking about the fact that it comes after a very public fall out in the squad, it makes me think that, actually, we're reached the tipping point where, even with the turmoil and unrest of a new manager, we'd have a better chance of staying up.

re the second point, I have to agree with you. Relegation would be humuliating, but appointing the anti-football would be worse.

I love the way people are going on about Houllier's tactical awareness then in the next breath, calling for that tactical expert "Big Sam".

Couldn't care less about tactics at the moment. I want a manager who can organise this shower of shit into a unit capable of three or four 1-0 wins between now and the end of the season. I think motivation is the most important skill for whoever is manager at this stage, which  definitely rules out Houllier IMO.

Yes. I can't believe people are accepting relegation with Houllier rather than having one last shot at staying up.

[cdbearsfan]

After what happened in Leicestershire it would be lunacy to appoint Cowans. McLeish, Grayson or maybe Eriksson, I would go for if Houllier leaves.

[villa `cross the mersey]

KT Villan Wrote "But if we can hold our nerve and survive I think the long term benefits could be worth it. "

That must be the biggest "But if " in history !

[olaftab]

Sacking him now would just cause even more unrest, I don't think it would help

How would sacking him now cause more unrest? He started to get things right and than messed it up in 1 stroke with what he did at Manchester City. By doing that he made it clear to the selected players that you are basically crap and my "super team" is awaiting Bolton. Post Bolton we had the hotel incident probably a direct result of his selection process and tactics.
We as a club can not be in any more severe state of "unrest" than we are now.

If it was up to me I would have sacked him as soon as I heard the lineup  in the 5th round of the FA Cup.
I say sack him now as almost anyone but him will get us the 7 or so points we need to stay up.
I am more angry now than I was at 4.55 yesterday.
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[eastie]

Agreed cd , I don't think keV mac and cowans would keep us up.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Sacking him now would just cause even more unrest, I don't think it would help.

It looks like we're buggered with him, and buggered if we get rid.  Bugger.

Looked at the entry into my diary for yesterday.
Simply says 'Bugger.'

[Bosco81]

It took the board a month to come up with that shortlist of desperados.

God knows who we'd end up with if they had to make a quick decision.

 

[Des Little]

How about this for a scenario that would suit all parties.

It is obvious Lerner thinks that Villa needs rebuilding from top to bottom.

So, we take Houllier upstairs in a "Director of Football" type role. He can oversee restructuring the scouting, negotiate for targets, all that stuff.

We then appoint someone line Martin Jol, or similar as Head coach. He worked that system at Spurs and Ajax.

Houllier is not sacked - he saves face
Lerner doesn't admit he made a mistake - he saves face
We get a new manager - fans are happy.

Worth a punt !

Gets my vote

[cdbearsfan]

Cowans would be a delusional Geordie-type appointment, based entirely on wishful thinking and nostalgia rather than common sense.

[Holte L2]

We need to act before the Everton game.  The players aren't playing for the Manager which is why we need to act.

Is it just me, or can anyone else see the similarities of the lack of fight displayed by France at the World Cup?

Bring Big Sam in until the end of the season, then assess the situation.  I'd like Grayson, or Hughes

[cdbearsfan]

No to Big Sam. Grayson or Hughes we could get now rather than wait till the end of the season.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

How about this for a scenario that would suit all parties.

It is obvious Lerner thinks that Villa needs rebuilding from top to bottom.

So, we take Houllier upstairs in a "Director of Football" type role. He can oversee restructuring the scouting, negotiate for targets, all that stuff.

We then appoint someone line Martin Jol, or similar as Head coach. He worked that system at Spurs and Ajax.

Houllier is not sacked - he saves face
Lerner doesn't admit he made a mistake - he saves face
We get a new manager - fans are happy.

Worth a punt !

Gets my vote

Not mine, if we get rid, then get rid.
If the players are not keen on him, there's no point having his mug around the place, in whatever capacity.

[TopDeck113]

The only person who would come to us now is someone who is out of work. 

I wasn't particularly inspired by the Houllier appointment, wanted him out at Christmas and am now convinced he's taking us down.   The FA Cup debacle and the subsequent return on no points from two games tells me the game's up.

Last night I was of the opinion that changing the manager was futile.  Accept the inevitable and make the change in the summer when we can hopefully get the right man.

How I think, let's bring in someone new.  Someone with a bit of personality and freshness.   It might be too late, but it might just inspire the three wins we need.   Even a dead cat bounces.