Sack the Manager?

[KevinGage]

And so it starts...

In the Mirror so shovel fulls of salt all round:

Hughes

[Sexual Ealing]

BFR til the end of the season? As long as the black players/white players with moderately enquiring minds could be persuaded that it was a good idea and he's not a bad sort underneath it all? Maybe? No? Ok...

[dl9]

BFR til the end of the season? As long as the black players/white players with moderately enquiring minds could be persuaded that it was a good idea and he's not a bad sort underneath it all? Maybe? No? Ok...

Haha.........best one I've heard yet! What about Dr Jo even? Or that Les Reed that sent Charlton into freefall back in 2006 perhaps?

[Sexual Ealing]

I know, it does sound weird, but then Les Reid didn't win any cups for Charlton

[Jimbo]

I won't  be rushing to the bookies to bet on Randy sacking Houllier, but I'll pop in next time I pass one and stick £20 on us to go down.

[TimTheVillain]

I fear we 're going down under Le Gaffuer, I'd sack him now and get Sam Allerduce in as a kind of Red Adair - yes, with a 7 figure bonus for keeping us up.

I fear Randy will stick with Le Gaffuer mind you .

[mattjpa]

Phil , we are talking temporary here, 8 games- offer him £1m bonus to keep us up and I'm sure sam would take the bait and we would stay up.

Offering Sam Allardyce a million pounds to keep us up is right up there with flattening Villa Park and building a Netto there in terms of ways to move the club forward.

So going down with Houllier would be preferable? Did you see his post match comments? He was smiling when told the fans were booing and said our luck would change. I hope he's not really depending on luck. If villa don't take action now, it'll be like nero fiddling while Rome burned.

The problem with this solution is, what do we do if he keeps us up? Im pretty sure if allardyce came in and won 5/8 games at the end of the season randy would realistically have to keep him to avoid getting in this situation again.
After 2-3 losses the fools would be unfurling banners before games and chanting your getting sacked in the morning.
Alternatively, he could go and get a well decorated, experienced manager from the continent but...oh wait, yeah, he just did that and the banners are out.
Am i the only one who can see its the bunch of ****** on the pitch that dont want to play for us? People critise the manager because that shower of shite arent motivated by upwards of 30k a week and 38,000 fans turning out for them.
Look at west ham, wolves, blackpool etc if you want to see fight...that has nothing to do with your ability

[eastie]

I disagree, I think if big Sam kept us up we would not have to give him the job, he takes it on an 8 game deal with a huge bonus to keep us up and then in the summer we chase coyle , moyes or whoever.

Sam enhances his reputation and pockets a nice fee and we avoid relegation and save millions- one thing about big Sam, he can motivate and get the best from his players and he would get the defence organise and I think he would take it on an 8 game basis as the financial rewards would merit it.

[Bottom Right 89]

Look what happened when Newcastle got Shearer in for the last 8 matches it doesn't work it's too late in the day to sack him. He'll stay and we have to get behind him if we are to survive. One thing I do know is that banners in the holte are like the grim reaper, Gerard is a dead man walking and will be gone by the Liverpool game if we are safe, once Villa fans turn there is no coming back.

Sadly I thought up until Man City he was starting to make progress, I can see what he is trying to do and in 12 months I'm sure we'd have a decent football team that could defend a corner but you don't get that long in the premier league combined with shit results, a bad injury list and sending our best young players out on loan and its a disaster.

[eastie]

Poor comparison, shearer had never been a manager or coach whereas big Sam has about 20 yrs experience at it.

I'm no lover of big Sam don't get me wrong but the main thing is avoiding relegation and I believe he would achieve that and then depart with a nice wedge of cash.

Like you I thought we were turning a corner but once it's clear a manager has lost the players and a lot of the fans there is no way back from there and sad to say enough is enough.

[supertom]

He's crap. Give Cowans the gig and he'll do enough to pull us out IMO.
Houllier is past it. He's a dinosaur and his decisions have mostly been rubbish. For starters, he continues to play our best player in a position where he's done pretty much fuck all this season! Ash Young is a winger, not a second striker. That's blatantly obvious. He may well prove to have long term success there, but only for a better team with better management, who can teach him the role properly. He's been bobbins this season largely.

We're not even making the most out of Darren Bent. It's an utter shambles right now. Can't defend, can't score. Oh but we pass it around slightly better in the middle third than we did under Martin O Neill (that's the same Martin O Neill who though a twat, gave us three 6th place finishes on the bounce).

[TimTheVillain]

Gerard Houllier: "I shared the fans' frustrations. They are not happy with me and I'm not happy with what we are doing at the moment. This is what happens when you don't get the results. You have to live with that. The hostility was not something I have really faced before. It is completely new but I can live with that. The fans need to support the team. What we want is the fans to back the team and at the moment we are going through a difficult period. The season has gone that way."

What we want is a new Manager.

Period.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

He should go now, but they won't get rid of him and we're fucked.

Randy, you really did back the wrong horse.

Proud history, shit future.

[Chris Smith]

Sacking him now would just cause even more unrest, I don't think it would help. As for Allardyce, in all seriousness I would rather be relegated than have that ****** managing my club.

[pauliewalnuts]

Sacking him now would just cause even more unrest, I don't think it would help. As for Allardyce, in all seriousness I would rather be relegated than have that c*** managing my club.

I was with you on the first bit yesterday, Chris, but having seen the way we performed, and thinking about the fact that it comes after a very public fall out in the squad, it makes me think that, actually, we're reached the tipping point where, even with the turmoil and unrest of a new manager, we'd have a better chance of staying up.

re the second point, I have to agree with you. Relegation would be humuliating, but appointing the anti-football would be worse.

I love the way people are going on about Houllier's tactical awareness then in the next breath, calling for that tactical expert "Big Sam".