the person with the banner, thanks for setting the upbeat tone for the day!

[freakypete]

weather you agree or dissagre with the banner is irellevent.....we the fans pay to follow our team so we do have the right to express our opinions....its because we care...we hurt.... pity players dont ,there not like us fans.....

[Rip Van We Go Again]

In my section of the North Stand, as soon as they read the banner there was a gloomy communal muttering of
'I suppose he's right, we really are shit under him.'
Hardly the best start to the game.

The place was like a morgue.

[Bosco81]

There was a smattering of applause when it got took down.

It was like a morgue in the north stand especially with tannoy not working, what was the minutes silence for ?

[cdbearsfan]

 I arrived too late to see it. Was it the same twat who brought the Arsenal banner? The minute's silence was for the Japanese disaster.

[Des Little]

I for one agree with the baner.  This bloke is taking us down, no doubt about it. Having said that it's too late to sack him...he may as well finish the worst job since McNeill.

[Chris Smith]

weather you agree or dissagre with the banner is irellevent.....we the fans pay to follow our team so we do have the right to express our opinions....its because we care...we hurt.... pity players dont ,there not like us fans.....

So I am exercising my right to say he is a bit of a wanker for doing it.

[barrysleftfoot]

   Before the game was bang out of order imho.


   I thought we would win yday, good performances against Bburn, the better team against Bolton, i was optimistic.I don't know why this bloke put such effort into doing this banner before ydays game, did he think we would lose?

  Before ydays game i was probably behind GH, after ydays game i am now not so sure, what i would say though, is as someone above said earlier, the atmosphere was shit, and very negative.Are we getting to the stage whereby the players don't want to play down VP?

[darren woolley]

I reckon we should get behind the manager and the team we don't wan't to be getting on GH's back let's all pull together in the same direction.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

   Before the game was bang out of order imho.

Well said.

[Risso]

Honestly, who cares though, really?  We've been shit all season long, banner or no banner.  Maybe it wasn't the right time to display it, but I bet it made bugger all difference to the result.  And if it helps Randy stop fiddling while Rome burns then good on him.

[VillaAlways]

I felt really confident going into this game as soon as I saw the banner I thought Christ were going to lose this.The banner created the negative vibe IMO it certainly didn't help.I know our next game is Everton away but our away support is fantastic and there'll be none of that rubbish hopefully.We may see a different team away from home

[Rip Van We Go Again]

I felt really confident going into this game as soon as I saw the banner I thought Christ were going to lose this.The banner created the negative vibe IMO it certainly didn't help.I know our next game is Everton away but our away support is fantastic and there'll be none of that rubbish hopefully.We may see a different team away from home

I think we'll up our game against Everton and only lose 2-0.

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Honestly, who cares though, really?  We've been shit all season long, banner or no banner.  Maybe it wasn't the right time to display it, but I bet it made bugger all difference to the result.  And if it helps Randy stop fiddling while Rome burns then good on him.

We haven't been that bad at home, generally speaking. Certainly not as bad as yesterday, Sunderland excepted. So perhaps the banner did make a difference? I know all the 'we pays our money we'll do what we want' arguments, but surely when the team is struggling and uncertain, a really loud, positive home support can help the lads play with a bit more confidence? Maybe it wouldn't make any difference, but it doesn't look like we're likely to find out because when the going gets tough down Villa Park, the tough start booing. And muttering. And getting out shit banners about how they hate our manager.

Our last 2 league performances had been good. I find the attitude of a guy that hangs a banner before KO in a game of such magnitude baffling, to be honest.

Also Risso, I can certainly see the arguments for wanting Gerard out, despite wanting to see if he can make a go of things with his methods long term. But I cannot see any good reason for people to start blaming Randy for our situation as you seem to be doing since yesterdays game. Houllier certainly appeared to be the best option available when he was hired. Few disagreed. Even when people wanted him out before Xmas there weren't any particularly outstanding candidates available to take over, and you don't get many chairmen sacking their new boss after 3 months in charge. Randy, instead, backed him hugely in the transfer market which is all you can really ask of him as far as I'm concerned. So now you'd sack him, take another big financial hit, and lumber us with fat Sam on a fatter contract (on which he'd surely insist) while certainly not guaranteeing safety? Crazy.

[Risso]

Also Risso, I can certainly see the arguments for wanting Gerard out, despite wanting to see if he can make a go of things with his methods long term. But I cannot see any good reason for people to start blaming Randy for our situation as you seem to be doing since yesterdays game. Houllier certainly appeared to be the best option available when he was hired. Few disagreed. Even when people wanted him out before Xmas there weren't any particularly outstanding candidates available to take over, and you don't get many chairmen sacking their new boss after 3 months in charge. Randy, instead, backed him hugely in the transfer market which is all you can really ask of him as far as I'm concerned. So now you'd sack him, take another big financial hit, and lumber us with fat Sam on a fatter contract (on which he'd surely insist) while certainly not guaranteeing safety? Crazy.

What a load of drivel.  Best option my arse, he was probably the cheapest option due to Randy not having the balls to go for a manager who was currently employed.  "Few disagreed" - again, absolute codswallop.  And the reason I'm blaming Randy is that HE appointed Houllier, who any other decent owner wouldn't have touched with a bargepole, and HE has kept the useless eejit on, when it's obvious to a blind man on a galloping horse that he's been a disaster since he walked through the door.  I don't support owners, I support Aston Villa, and Randy Lerner's (in)actions look like taking us down to the Championship.

[1_Pablo_Angel]

What a load of drivel.  Best option my arse, he was probably the cheapest option due to Randy not having the balls to go for a manager who was currently employed. 

See, comments like this make you sound weirdly desperate to criticise Randy. I don't support Chairmen over the club either but the guy's done a hell of a lot for us and doesn't deserve it. Accusing him of taking the cheap option with the manager given all he's spent on us since arriving is incredibly churlish, particularly since you obviously don't know what you're talking about in regard to his motives unless perhaps you're Paul Faulkner, General Krulak or Randy's missus in disguise.

And obviously he's a pussy for not poaching a manager who already had a job? Again, you have no idea that we didn't put out feelers to managers but were rebuffed. I seem to recall Jol saying something about not being interested in the job currently because he had at that point decided to stay with Ajax for a bit. Maybe none of these amazing managers, with much better records than Houllier, actually wanted to come here? On the other hand, maybe it was down to Randy being a principled man rather than having a 'lack of balls'. You've no idea whatsoever either way and your desperation to blame him for these imagined failings just makes you look miserable and bitter.

HE has kept the useless eejit on, when it's obvious to a blind man on a galloping horse that he's been a disaster since he walked through the door.

It's not that obvious. This argument has been done ad nauseum on here but he's had terrible luck with injuries and inherited a squad full of some right ******. Despite this, there have been good performances; there have been times most on here were looking at 7th as a possibility rather than trying to stay up in the last few games. Things are dire now but to say it's all been this bad since he came is complete revisionism designed, I can only assume, to give you another stick to beat Randy with.