Women and the offside rule - Andy Gray sacked

[Legion]

I was told many years ago by somebody who is very reliable about a recording made of Sue Lawley.

Please elaborate.

[pauliewalnuts]

If they've any sense Sky will use this as an opportunity to freshen up the whole thing.

I agree on that.

Hopefully they'll ditch that 1990s style over the top American presentation, that whole "Monday Night Football" spangly graphics bullshit.

[montague]

Where is the line drawn though.

I've worked at places where games like "shag, marry or throw of a cliff" have been played on nights out by males and females, places where the females would wind the males up by flashing underwear or more, or lads being accused of being heartless/dead inside if they didn't want to be hugged/groped by women. Taken to it's further degrees all the people involved should be sacked. None of the above is right, but in the same sense saying someone is a looker surely isn't a sackable offence?

Not sure exactly where the line should be draw but the workplace is certainly a place this sort of "banter" should be forbidden. If I'd said what Gray said to a female colleague I would have been sacked on the spot, and rightly so.

[montague]

A couple of questions for some of the people on here.

If you had a daughter, who is attractive, and in her mid-twenties, and saw a middle-aged man sticks his hand down his trousers and say "Are you going to help me tuck this in?". Let's say it is your friend, in the pub or one of her colleague's at work. Is this flirting, or just having a laugh?

This is not really analagous. The Sky girl has made a substantial amount of money objectifying herself by posing "provocatively" in lads mags.

If that was my daughter that would actually disappoint me more than the almost inevitable reaction from some men.

So that makes her fair game then? Give me strength.

[London Villan]

Where is the line drawn though.

I've worked at places where games like "shag, marry or throw of a cliff" have been played on nights out by males and females, places where the females would wind the males up by flashing underwear or more, or lads being accused of being heartless/dead inside if they didn't want to be hugged/groped by women. Taken to it's further degrees all the people involved should be sacked. None of the above is right, but in the same sense saying someone is a looker surely isn't a sackable offence?

Not sure exactly where the line should be draw but the workplace is certainly a place this sort of "banter" should be forbidden. If I'd said what Gray said to a female colleague I would have been sacked on the spot, and rightly so.

If that had been the case in the couple of places I have worked there would have been dozens of sackings a month (male and female). I guess it depends on what is considered acceptable, or what is acceptable until someone pulls the carpet from underneath the people involved, as has happened in this case.

[WikiVilla]

Has the hairy baboon had his P45 yet

[john e]

i asked my wife about the off side rule, she didnt have a clue,

 but she did tell me that 'Joules' have opened up a new shop just up the road in Olney, and it has a sale on.

[damon loves JT]

the females would wind the males up by flashing underwear or more, or lads being accused of being heartless/dead inside if they didn't want to be hugged/groped by women.

I never get asked on nights out like that.  Life is so unfair

[pauliewalnuts]

i asked my wife about the off side rule, she didnt have a clue,

 but she did tell me that 'Joules' have opened up a new shop just up the road in Olney, and it has a sale on.

Nice little place, Olney.

[villajk]

Key's was speaking, exclusively, on ITV news today.

Goodness, he looks rough.

[London Villan]

the females would wind the males up by flashing underwear or more, or lads being accused of being heartless/dead inside if they didn't want to be hugged/groped by women.

I never get asked on nights out like that.  Life is so unfair

Those events weren't even nights out, but regular office occurrences!  One of the best night out stories happened when two account managers decided it would be a good idea to perform a lap-dance for a client and then end up in bed with them.

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

the females would wind the males up by flashing underwear or more, or lads being accused of being heartless/dead inside if they didn't want to be hugged/groped by women.

I never get asked on nights out like that.  Life is so unfair

Those events weren't even nights out, but regular office occurrences!  One of the best night out stories happened when two account managers decided it would be a good idea to perform a lap-dance for a client and then end up in bed with them.

That could never happen where I work; the most attractive woman here has got a face like a bulldog licking piss off a nettle.

[WikiVilla]

Yes he looks like a dead man walking

[WikiVilla]

the females would wind the males up by flashing underwear or more, or lads being accused of being heartless/dead inside if they didn't want to be hugged/groped by women.

I never get asked on nights out like that.  Life is so unfair

Those events weren't even nights out, but regular office occurrences!  One of the best night out stories happened when two account managers decided it would be a good idea to perform a lap-dance for a client and then end up in bed with them.

any jobs going ?

[SteveD]

Keys was also speaking exclusively on Talk Shite (his next employer?) about "a bit of fun we got wrong" and said Karen Brady wouldn't take his calls 

And did you notice Richard, she employs someone to answer her phone and wasn't off making coffee for someone either?