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Offline LeeB

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Re: Kyle Walker
« Reply #120 on: January 07, 2011, 05:15:17 PM »
Don't bother Stu, you're dealing with a very confused man there.

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Re: Kyle Walker
« Reply #121 on: January 07, 2011, 05:34:06 PM »
If he does such an astonishing job that either Spurs want to put him straight into their first team

I think that is the issue with a lot of people right there. From challenging for a top four place with Spurs last season to testing out their young players for them in one season seems like an alarming slump in ambition, seemingly from the top down. I want him to be a success obviously but bloody hell, a Spurs loanee with only two Prem games to his name?

It is what it is though Stu, and do we refuse deals like this on the basis of pride, or do we do what needs to be done to sort out our mess?

Of course, but say if he goes back to Spurs in the summer, what then?
And if he does well and stays with us?

Then bully for us. As I said, I want him to do well. You have to admit though that this is a stark insight into where we are financially. I don't want to start going on about ambition or lack thereof, but with signings like this, regardless of league position and current form, it just gives me the impression that we'll never make a big splash ever again. Its almost as if the board have accepted that we're mid-table to outside contenders for Europe at best.

Harrumph.

So your policy would be to spend on names like Ronaldinho and Tevez then ?

Mon spent 180 million and bought a squad which he was so confident in he ran from it at the first chance, didn't work for him yet you want a bloke you don't rate to spend big?

Excuse me but that sounds a wee bit silly.

We have needed a real right back for several seasons, and this one is a proven player in form. Perhaps if he'd cost 9 mill from Leeds and never played a serious game you'd love him.

There is something fundamentally wrong with you, and in this case your calculator also.

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Re: Kyle Walker
« Reply #122 on: January 07, 2011, 05:48:56 PM »
Not really. You calculate the buys and the wages of those buys (71 million a season) then MON has cost the club way more that the 200 million mark over the life of their contracts. For that we have about the most average set of highly paid players you will ever see, with the least amount of technical ability or creativity.

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Re: Kyle Walker
« Reply #123 on: January 07, 2011, 06:06:01 PM »
Not really. You calculate the buys and the wages of those buys (71 million a season) then MON has cost the club way more that the 200 million mark over the life of their contracts. For that we have about the most average set of highly paid players you will ever see, with the least amount of technical ability or creativity.

Its become a recent phenominon of including wages over the course of the contract as total spent on players, something Doug Ellis started a few years back. Its used to suit a particular argument. The club should ensure that the balance sheet shows that monthly incomes are suitably more than the outgoing including wages, and if they have not done that then something is wrong. Money spent on players in my book is what it always used to be, transfer fees. I get it to approx £70m or £17.5m per season. In fairness, for me the whole club are to blame for the stupid wages we have paid to mediocre players.

Going back to Walker, i see he's banging on about his Sheff Utd supporting days on the official site. Do we think he will be fondling the opposing players in the tunnel before the game or blowing kisses to the kop end as he runs onto the pitch, or will he show a bit more respect to his current (temporary) employers?
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Re: Kyle Walker
« Reply #124 on: January 07, 2011, 06:14:35 PM »
Not really. You calculate the buys and the wages of those buys (71 million a season) then MON has cost the club way more that the 200 million mark over the life of their contracts. For that we have about the most average set of highly paid players you will ever see, with the least amount of technical ability or creativity.

Its become a recent phenominon of including wages over the course of the contract as total spent on players, something Doug Ellis started a few years back. Its used to suit a particular argument. The club should ensure that the balance sheet shows that monthly incomes are suitably more than the outgoing including wages, and if they have not done that then something is wrong. Money spent on players in my book is what it always used to be, transfer fees. I get it to approx £70m or £17.5m per season. In fairness, for me the whole club are to blame for the stupid wages we have paid to mediocre players.
And whether Mrs Overall is counting wages or not, his calculations are still massively flawed.

Online The Man With A Stick

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Re: Kyle Walker
« Reply #125 on: January 07, 2011, 06:19:45 PM »
All I know from the last game is that we were playing our best 2 CB as fullbacks, so bringing in a specialist FB with a point to prove seems like a smart move to me. Get another one in, Ged, and then move Cuellar and Clark into the middle where they belong!

...is exactly what i'd do.  Bridge would fit in quite nicely.

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Re: Kyle Walker
« Reply #126 on: January 07, 2011, 06:23:48 PM »
Not really. You calculate the buys and the wages of those buys (71 million a season) then MON has cost the club way more that the 200 million mark over the life of their contracts. For that we have about the most average set of highly paid players you will ever see, with the least amount of technical ability or creativity.

Its become a recent phenominon of including wages over the course of the contract as total spent on players, something Doug Ellis started a few years back. Its used to suit a particular argument. The club should ensure that the balance sheet shows that monthly incomes are suitably more than the outgoing including wages, and if they have not done that then something is wrong. Money spent on players in my book is what it always used to be, transfer fees. I get it to approx £70m or £17.5m per season. In fairness, for me the whole club are to blame for the stupid wages we have paid to mediocre players.
And whether Mrs Overall is counting wages or not, his calculations are still massively flawed.

Quite. The point is as well, you would have to pay wages to someone, so if we get picky should we take the average wage for a premier league club and compare it to ours. And then do we look at our level of success vs the extra to the average that we have paid, and see if we got value for money?

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Re: Kyle Walker
« Reply #127 on: January 08, 2011, 05:42:32 PM »
Brilliant performance from him, let's enjoy him while we have him and hopefully you never know we may keep him.

Offline Rip Van We Go Again

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Re: Kyle Walker
« Reply #128 on: January 08, 2011, 05:43:54 PM »
He attacks like Glen Johnson but has much better defensive qualities.

Offline TheSandman

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Re: Kyle Walker
« Reply #129 on: January 08, 2011, 05:47:06 PM »
Impressive start.

Keep that up and I really hope we have a clause to convert him into a permanent signing as Spurs will do anything to keep him if we don't.

Offline spangley1812

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Re: Kyle Walker
« Reply #130 on: January 08, 2011, 05:47:43 PM »
He attacks like Glen Johnson but has much better defensive qualities.
Wow u know that from one game versus a team that are 21st in the Championship........We need to wait before saying how good he is or isnt 

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Re: Kyle Walker
« Reply #131 on: January 08, 2011, 05:50:36 PM »

Offline Rip Van We Go Again

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Re: Kyle Walker
« Reply #132 on: January 08, 2011, 05:54:42 PM »
He attacks like Glen Johnson but has much better defensive qualities.
Wow u know that from one game versus a team that are 21st in the Championship........We need to wait before saying how good he is or isnt 
He's been performing like that every week for QPR.
Warnock was desperate to keep him.
Give the lad some credit.

Offline TimTheVillain

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Re: Kyle Walker
« Reply #133 on: January 08, 2011, 05:56:57 PM »
Great début.

Can we play him every week.
« Last Edit: January 08, 2011, 06:21:19 PM by TimTheVillain »

Offline spangley1812

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Re: Kyle Walker
« Reply #134 on: January 08, 2011, 05:57:36 PM »
I will if he plays like that  for the next 5 premiership games he plays, lets see how good he is v Man City, etc  shall we before "proclaiming" he is the best right back in England

 


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