Kyle Walker

[Linus]

I thought we were past borrowing players from our "rivals". I was wrong. We are a joke.

[Clark W Griswold]

Well if you consider borrowing somebody elses player for a few months as a signing you obviously went to the same school of positive spin as Doug Ellis. I'm glad you are happy with the situation.

A good player has come in to help make our team better.

If you're not glad about that you clearly went to the same school of positivity as Sylvia Plath.

I'm not really into Poetry, but i think you should go into politics, as your attempts to turn a load of bollocks into something good is quite impressive.

[Dave]

Well if you consider borrowing somebody elses player for a few months as a signing you obviously went to the same school of positive spin as Doug Ellis. I'm glad you are happy with the situation.

A good player has come in to help make our team better.

If you're not glad about that you clearly went to the same school of positivity as Sylvia Plath.

I'm not really into Poetry, but i think you should go into politics, as your attempts to turn a load of bollocks into something good is quite impressive.

I'll take that as a compliment.

I'm guessing that if Walker becomes a really good player for us over the next couple of years it will still be an absolute disaster?

[Dribbler]

It's a strange choice in my opinion, he's a promising young player and so no doubt would be good as a permanent signing for the long run, but bringing such a young and relatively inexperienced player in on a temporary loan until the end of the season in the situation we're in, seems risky. I can only assume Houllier thinks he will be more adaptable because of his age and can play the kind of style of defence he wants.

[Greg N'Ash]

makes you wonder how bad the finances are now. Throwing a youth player into a relegation battle doesn't sound too clever to me. We're doing too much of that already.

[Clark W Griswold]

Well if you consider borrowing somebody elses player for a few months as a signing you obviously went to the same school of positive spin as Doug Ellis. I'm glad you are happy with the situation.

A good player has come in to help make our team better.

If you're not glad about that you clearly went to the same school of positivity as Sylvia Plath.

I'm not really into Poetry, but i think you should go into politics, as your attempts to turn a load of bollocks into something good is quite impressive.

I'll take that as a compliment.

I'm guessing that if Walker becomes a really good player for us over the next couple of years it will still be an absolute disaster?

I've no problem with the kid personally, in truth i know little about him. My problem is with the 'loan'. I would sooner play our own players. I think there is considerably more than a fifty percent chance the kid won't be with us in a couple of years, and thats my beef. Especially when you consider that if the press are to be beleived most of the deals we are looking at are loans. Waste of time, nearly every time. Tell me of a loan that we have done in the last 20 years that was worth it? Carbone is the only one i can think of that went well, but then he left us having to replace him after the 6 months, upsetting the continuity of the team.

[El Hurricane]

This is one for the journalists to ask "are you going to sign him in the summer?" Has he got a squad number,has Omar Cummings got a squad number?

[Dave]

I've no problem with the kid personally, in truth i know little about him. My problem is with the 'loan'. I would sooner play our own players. I think there is considerably more than a fifty percent chance the kid won't be with us in a couple of years, and thats my beef. Especially when you consider that if the press are to be beleived most of the deals we are looking at are loans. Waste of time, nearly every time. Tell me of a loan that we have done in the last 20 years that was worth it? Carbone is the only one i can think of that went well, but then he left us having to replace him after the 6 months, upsetting the continuity of the team.

The only person who I've seen claim to have any sort of information on the structure of the deal is that superhero chap over at the other forum who says that both Walker himself and Redknapp want the deal to become permanent. From what I've seen, a lot of what he says turns out to be nonsense but it seems a pretty big jump to just assume that he'll be with us for a few months and nothing more.

To flip your loan question on it's head, I would suggest that the loan arrangements we've had in the last few years have worked in our favour. For one I'm glad we didn't sign Bardsley or Carson on full-time contracts, much rather see if they can do the job and then get shot when we realise that they can't.

If Walker does a decent job then he'll probably stay with us. If he doesn't we choose not to sign him.

If he does such an astonishing job that either Spurs want to put him straight into their first team or Barcelona want him to replace Dani Alves when he goes to Man City then he must have a brilliant job for us and we've stayed up with plenty to spare.

Come on chap, glass half-full. Not everything is bad news.

[Clark W Griswold]

I've no problem with the kid personally, in truth i know little about him. My problem is with the 'loan'. I would sooner play our own players. I think there is considerably more than a fifty percent chance the kid won't be with us in a couple of years, and thats my beef. Especially when you consider that if the press are to be beleived most of the deals we are looking at are loans. Waste of time, nearly every time. Tell me of a loan that we have done in the last 20 years that was worth it? Carbone is the only one i can think of that went well, but then he left us having to replace him after the 6 months, upsetting the continuity of the team.

The only person who I've seen claim to have any sort of information on the structure of the deal is that superhero chap over at the other forum who says that both Walker himself and Redknapp want the deal to become permanent. From what I've seen, a lot of what he says turns out to be nonsense but it seems a pretty big jump to just assume that he'll be with us for a few months and nothing more.

To flip your loan question on it's head, I would suggest that the loan arrangements we've had in the last few years have worked in our favour. For one I'm glad we didn't sign Bardsley or Carson on full-time contracts, much rather see if they can do the job and then get shot when we realise that they can't.

If Walker does a decent job then he'll probably stay with us. If he doesn't we choose not to sign him.

If he does such an astonishing job that either Spurs want to put him straight into their first team or Barcelona want him to replace Dani Alves when he goes to Man City then he must have a brilliant job for us and we've stayed up with plenty to spare.

Come on chap, glass half-full. Not everything is bad news.

Good news for me will be if we sign 2 or 3 good players permanently by the end of the month, and have picked up 6 points and progressed in the cup. I can hope.
 

[Stu]

If he does such an astonishing job that either Spurs want to put him straight into their first team

I think that is the issue with a lot of people right there. From challenging for a top four place with Spurs last season to testing out their young players for them in one season seems like an alarming slump in ambition, seemingly from the top down. I want him to be a success obviously but bloody hell, a Spurs loanee with only two Prem games to his name?

[LeeB]

If he does such an astonishing job that either Spurs want to put him straight into their first team

I think that is the issue with a lot of people right there. From challenging for a top four place with Spurs last season to testing out their young players for them in one season seems like an alarming slump in ambition, seemingly from the top down. I want him to be a success obviously but bloody hell, a Spurs loanee with only two Prem games to his name?

It is what it is though Stu, and do we refuse deals like this on the basis of pride, or do we do what needs to be done to sort out our mess?

[JUAN PABLO]

If he does such an astonishing job that either Spurs want to put him straight into their first team

I think that is the issue with a lot of people right there. From challenging for a top four place with Spurs last season to testing out their young players for them in one season seems like an alarming slump in ambition, seemingly from the top down. I want him to be a success obviously but bloody hell, a Spurs loanee with only two Prem games to his name?

hes just played in a tough championship league  , in a team thats top and alot of rangers fans reckon hes been the best player ....     I havent got a problem with that .....       lets just wait until the transfer window closes ..

[Chris Jameson]

kyle who? wot a joke

You've not seen him play therefore it's a joke? I've never heard of half the players at other Premiership teams but they seem to be better at kicking a football than most of the jokers wearing Aston Villa shirts

[Stu]

If he does such an astonishing job that either Spurs want to put him straight into their first team

I think that is the issue with a lot of people right there. From challenging for a top four place with Spurs last season to testing out their young players for them in one season seems like an alarming slump in ambition, seemingly from the top down. I want him to be a success obviously but bloody hell, a Spurs loanee with only two Prem games to his name?

It is what it is though Stu, and do we refuse deals like this on the basis of pride, or do we do what needs to be done to sort out our mess?

Of course, but say if he goes back to Spurs in the summer, what then? Mind you, I do agree that we need some short term fixes to get us through to the end of season with our PL status intact.

This is us isn't it? The Villa. From triumph to disaster one season to the next.

[avfcpg]

If he's good enough, he's old enough. As for labelling him a spurs reserve and huffing and puffing about it, get over it. He's been at QPR all season not on the Spurs bench.

Spurs are hardly reknowned for thier tremendous youth policy, they don't develop good players they just buy them. Who knows, if he does well, fits in, we like him then he might actually actually enjoy it so much he tells Spurs he wants to join us. I doubt Appy Arry would batter an eyelid...he'll just buy another with some of the money.