Would YOU have MON back ??

[TheSandman]

The key flaw in that argument is that the majority of fans were backing MoN rather than calling for his head. I was at the Chelsea semi-final and he received almost unprecedented backing. On here he received decent approval ratings in all polls.

He left of his own choosing and not Randy's or ours.

[Drummond]

No.

[JJ-AV]

Wouldn't have him back, but wish to god he could have swallowed some pride at the start of Summer and he and Lerner could have shipped the crap out, then reinvest the Milner money to make us stronger again.

[Brian Taylor]

I, too, was happy with him back them but there was sea-change of dis-satisfaction going on. He saw the change of sentiment and decided to go.

The majority of complainants are against MoN now. He has become the bete noir of late. He needed a couple of seasons and the money to get to next level. It was not forthcoming ergo..There is no way he will return. It was those with RL/Generals ear that did the damage which got rid of him, that, and the obvious lack of funds.
He asked for something. He did not get it and went.
He may now get it elsewhere.
I have yet to read MoN's side of the argument.
We must concentrate on getting out of a worse predicament now and it takes time. Mon hit a plateau and needed backing and money to get above it. GH was expected to be off to a running start with what MoN left behind..
Certain members of the team played for MoN.
They must play for GH now or go. So far they haven't or so seems.
Carew is one..sad but true.
We need fresh blood that wat to paly for us and see us to the next stage.
It is a constant mutating morass..we are in a new morass right now that fan induced chaos will not get us out of.
GH has to form his team and then be judged.
Presently I sense there is not enough money to challenge for the top places and neither go I sense RL wants rid of GH as I don't believ he wanted rid of MoN. MoN read the signs and went.
Therefore we must endure and await outcome..survival is main thing and build next couple of seasons.
We are not Man's City/Ure or the others..Rooney and Tevez setting the pay bar at £10m pa is ludicrous and even so are not happy.
There is a deeper unhappiness at work here; a poison that needs to be drawn, something that will never happen in the present disunity.
Fans believe in their teams. Managers believe in teams. Do players anymore? What do players believe in anymore? Managers need money to attract players to get the approval of fans who earn a fraction of current players..
The equation is well out of balance an needs readjustment..
We need players who wish to demonstrate they deserve higher wages than they are currently on within reason..but if the fans walk so does the money.

[luke25]

The key flaw in that argument is that the majority of fans were backing MoN rather than calling for his head. I was at the Chelsea semi-final and he received almost unprecedented backing. On here he received decent approval ratings in all polls.

He left of his own choosing and not Randy's or ours.

That Chelsea semi final was the worst i've saw for Villa fans fighting amongst themselves, the amount of arguments and scuffles that broke out between the pro and anti MON brigades that day was unreal

[Hillbilly]

I'd guess that RL compared the wage bills and incomes for Villa, Spurs and Everton and thought 'Uh-oh...the honeymoon's over". The other two for better or worse are our closest peers and achieve more for less (Spurs) or the same for much less (Everton). I don't know about anyone else but if I were RL and MON asked for more cash, under the circumstances I'd have politely asked him to put up or shut up.

[Brian Taylor]

Three players in at cost of £800k plus wages is indicative of where we are and  first consideration of board. I hop GH knows some quality  players from time in France ,otherwise we need some miracle money to bring in big name players who are not past it.
That is it in nutshell. MoN found out the pot was empty. RH accepts the fact and will try to work on a low budget.
More going than coming, I suspect.
Fans will have to get used to running on empty fo a couple of seasons.

[ozzjim]

MON racked up a 71 million wage bill, 11 million more than reportedly at Spurs who have a squad light years better than ours. He was never going to keep us in the top 6 again without swallowing his own pride and working with different styles of player. He was too rigd tactically, and frankly had lost the plot.

Also, people seem to forget that our form since March this year has been shocking, we only won about 7 home games last season and played turgid football, although people will now see that with rose tinted specs and imagine we were an exciting side at home. I am sure against Blackburn on the final day we had 1 shot on target the whole game, and were as uninventive and inspiring as they come.

GH may not be the right man, time and his signings over the next month will show that, if not then in feb get rid, but Martin O'Neill is without doubt not the man either.

I won't even start on the shite on the pitch he left behind, or the walking out 5 days before the season. He was John Gregory in a different guise, no better, and I liked the former more.

[jonzy85]

I still dont get this "MON racked up the wage bill stuff"

It's like he did it all behind Randy's back. If the wage bill got too high it's Randy's fault. He's the one that signs the cheques etc.

[Ger Regan]

I still dont get this "MON racked up the wage bill stuff"

It's like he did it all behind Randy's back. If the wage bill got too high it's Randy's fault. He's the one that signs the cheques etc.

The flaw in your argument is that he would have walked if he wasn't backed by RL (as eventually happened). Then Randy would have the bad guy for not backing his manager. It's a lose-lose situation for the chairman.

[darren woolley]

They say it's never the same second time round so i would have to say no i don't think he would come back anyway but we need to get out of this mess without MON.

[eastie]

I would like to hear one day mons version of why he left and what the final straw was - his biggest mistake for me was the failure to get a top class goalscorer 3 yrs ago- we may have cracked the top 4 if he had done.

I think man citys cash and the credit crunch changed the amount Of cash randy had to spend and it seems mon didn't like the fact that randy was cutting back on spending.

I feel mon had taken us as far as he could and we had some great times under him but it was time to go - he should have gone in may though and given us a chance to rebuild rather than leave in the way he did , and for the timing of his leaving he ruined his reputation in the eyes of many !

[Phil from the upper holte]

Haha NO

[Mark H]

No never go back

[dave.woodhall]

I, too, was happy with him back them but there was sea-change of dis-satisfaction going on. He saw the change of sentiment and decided to go.

The majority of complainants are against MoN now. He has become the bete noir of late. He needed a couple of seasons and the money to get to next level. It was not forthcoming ergo..There is no way he will return. It was those with RL/Generals ear that did the damage which got rid of him, that, and the obvious lack of funds.
He asked for something. He did not get it and went.
He may now get it elsewhere.
I have yet to read MoN's side of the argument.
We must concentrate on getting out of a worse predicament now and it takes time. Mon hit a plateau and needed backing and money to get above it. GH was expected to be off to a running start with what MoN left behind..
Certain members of the team played for MoN.
They must play for GH now or go. So far they haven't or so seems.
Carew is one..sad but true.
We need fresh blood that wat to paly for us and see us to the next stage.
It is a constant mutating morass..we are in a new morass right now that fan induced chaos will not get us out of.
GH has to form his team and then be judged.
Presently I sense there is not enough money to challenge for the top places and neither go I sense RL wants rid of GH as I don't believ he wanted rid of MoN. MoN read the signs and went.
Therefore we must endure and await outcome..survival is main thing and build next couple of seasons.
We are not Man's City/Ure or the others..Rooney and Tevez setting the pay bar at £10m pa is ludicrous and even so are not happy.
There is a deeper unhappiness at work here; a poison that needs to be drawn, something that will never happen in the present disunity.
Fans believe in their teams. Managers believe in teams. Do players anymore? What do players believe in anymore? Managers need money to attract players to get the approval of fans who earn a fraction of current players..
The equation is well out of balance an needs readjustment..
We need players who wish to demonstrate they deserve higher wages than they are currently on within reason..but if the fans walk so does the money.

How do you know all of these things for certain?