Would YOU have MON back ??

[WarszaVillan]

I actually didn't 'forgive' Saunders for a long time and he was enemy number one for most fans for a long time. I actually remember being surprised how well people remembered him when I started reading the H&V forum back in the day. I've said it before and I'll say it again - unfortunately the further we get away from the MON era the more fondly it will be remembered.

[Breezeblock]

MON got results...but leaving like he did was pure crap and unforgivable.

Ok i'll ask you then and everybody else who thought it was 'unforgivable', did you forgive Ron Saunders?

Yes, of course.

Lets look at Saunders' achievements then shall we?  Promotion to the first division, two league cups, one championship and  left us with a team that won the European cup.  Left because (in my view) Ellis hated him and his achievements and he hated Ellis right back.  I forgave him the day the filth sacked him.

Now what has Martin O'Neil done for the cause? Finished sixth three times and  left us with a team that is struggling in the relegation zone. Left because (in my view) he could not handle the pressure and was about to have his spending curtailed.  It is also my belief that he instigated the sale of Milner in a fit of pique. Now that is only my belief but if it were to turn out to be true, rather than forgive O'Neill I'd prefer to lynch the spineless, pedantic twunt.

[hawkeye]

Forgive a bloke that created our best team ever in living memory, created a team before that which really did have you on the edge of your seat, you saw the emotion when he was on the pitch a few years ago, i was in tears. Il get back to you

[RugbyVilla]

I can't believe the poll on this subject - most of you wouldn't want MON back after watching the headless chickens play under Houllier !!! Mon dieu!!!

MON may not have played the most attractive football but his teams had spirit and fight and produced results consistently.

Results or pretty football

[john e]

why do people keep saying under MON we had spirit and fight ?

did they not see the home games last season, some of the worst displays i can remember.

i'm not saying they all were, and i'm not saying that MON was a total disaster, because he wasnt,
 but some of the performances were right up there with the worst that Houllier has had to offer, or are we rewriting history again

[PaulWinch again]

He left us, he wasn't fired. We were pretty awful in his last 6 months, so no not ever.

[willywombat]

Nope, never in a thousand years. Specky twat buggered off 5 days before the start of the season and knowingly dumped us right in the shit. I hope he gets galloping knob rot

[eastie]

Ok we are in a bad run of results with one win in 10 league games but it's nothing that didn't happen under mon- it's just earlier in the season this time rather than starting in march-martin has gone and whatever Anyone thinks about his reign he will not be coming back!

[Nev]

The creative minds continue unabated, "instigated the sale of Milner"?

Anybody care to offer up any evidence that MON mounted a calculated campaign to cause harm to Aston Villa?

[AV82EC]

Nev

There was a post from pelty back in the summer along the lines of we'd turned down two bids and it was a surprise to the board and milner when MON told the media he wanted to leave.

Oh and in answer to the original question no no and thrice no. The traitorous twat can go and hang.

[Nev]

Nev

There was a post from pelty back in the summer along the lines of we'd turned down two bids and it was a surprise to the board and milner when MON told the media he wanted to leave.

Oh and in answer to the original question no no and thrice no. The traitorous twat can go and hang.

OK, so we are saying that Milner did not want to go to Man City at all but was forced out by MON? I seem to recall the deal being completed after he left?

[Ads]

I actually didn't 'forgive' Saunders for a long time and he was enemy number one for most fans for a long time. I actually remember being surprised how well people remembered him when I started reading the H&V forum back in the day. I've said it before and I'll say it again - unfortunately the further we get away from the MON era the more fondly it will be remembered.

Saunders won the title, several league cups and set up the European Cup winning side before walking out.

MON won fuck all.

Now why do you think people find it easier to forgive Saunders?

[Breezeblock]

Nev

There was a post from pelty back in the summer along the lines of we'd turned down two bids and it was a surprise to the board and milner when MON told the media he wanted to leave.

Oh and in answer to the original question no no and thrice no. The traitorous twat can go and hang.

OK, so we are saying that Milner did not want to go to Man City at all but was forced out by MON? I seem to recall the deal being completed after he left?

We are "saying" no such thing.  I am speculating based on the postings of Pelty and also comments made to me by one of the playing staff who I met and had a long conversation with last year.

[AV82EC]

Nev

There was a post from pelty back in the summer along the lines of we'd turned down two bids and it was a surprise to the board and milner when MON told the media he wanted to leave.

Oh and in answer to the original question no no and thrice no. The traitorous twat can go and hang.

OK, so we are saying that Milner did not want to go to Man City at all but was forced out by MON? I seem to recall the deal being completed after he left?

Without wishing to go over old ground but I thought accepted wisdom was that early in the summer Milner had not requested a move and we had rebuffed bids from Citeh.  As I said above and it was confirmed by pelty earlier in the season when MON came out with his he wants to leave stuff this was a surprise to milner and the board, in fact Milner came out and said exactly that about 3 days later.  Citeh renewed their interest and the board had to back their Manager in his decision to sell the player.  Why MON did it I don't know but it spectacularly backfired as we lost one of our two best players and ended up having to accept having the deal cheapened with the inclusion of the headcase Ireland.  I know Milner hasn't been pulling up trees at Citeh but I know which club got the better deal.

[Nev]

Nev

There was a post from pelty back in the summer along the lines of we'd turned down two bids and it was a surprise to the board and milner when MON told the media he wanted to leave.

Oh and in answer to the original question no no and thrice no. The traitorous twat can go and hang.

OK, so we are saying that Milner did not want to go to Man City at all but was forced out by MON? I seem to recall the deal being completed after he left?

We are "saying" no such thing.  I am speculating based on the postings of Pelty and also comments made to me by one of the playing staff who I met and had a long conversation with last year.

Which brings me back to my point. The opinions of Martin O'Neil aired on here regarding the circumstances of his departure are based on pure speculation and nothing else.