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Offline kieron

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #120 on: December 28, 2010, 05:59:56 PM »
Cue the OS giving us random player interviews telling us all how we need to 'firm up our defence', 'believe' and play without 'fear'.

Bored of the corporate bullshit. Just tell us you're going to pull your fucking socks up, stop the bollocks and get your fucking foot through the bastard ball.

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #121 on: December 28, 2010, 06:00:49 PM »
Cue the OS giving us random player interviews telling us all how we need to 'firm up our defence', 'believe' and play without 'fear'.

Bored of the corporate bullshit. Just tell us you're going to pull your fucking socks up, stop the bollocks and get your fucking foot through the bastard ball.

Well said. The soundbites are becoming tiresome.

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #122 on: December 28, 2010, 06:02:30 PM »
I was at the game and the only thing to be proud of was the fans. Utterly brilliant-vocal, passionate, committed to the cause, and stayed right to the very end. The team could learn a lot if they looked in that direction.

The same ones booing when Pires came on and telling Houllier to feck off? Yes, very committed to the cause.


Very much so; "The city is ours, the city is ours, fuck off Houllier, the city is ours."

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #123 on: December 28, 2010, 06:03:16 PM »
18 months to 2 years ago we were better than Spurs and Citeh.

We lose to Spurs who have 10 men on our own patch, we get raped at Citeh who have 2 of our best players over the last few years on the bench, while we have 2 of their cast offs in reserve on circa 120k a week who we can't shift.

It does not look good at all.

Scary isn't it, 40 points and were safe right?

7 wins from 18 to survive, miracles can  happen......so they say

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #124 on: December 28, 2010, 06:03:41 PM »
Fans are entitled to boo and express whatever views they like. The fans are the club. Who keeps the club alive when its in the doldrums? Who pays good money to follow the team? Players are just working for the club, managers and coaches likewise whereas its an investment for Randy.

The fans are the ones who genuinely care about Aston Villa and if they want to boo they can. Moreover, their views are the most genuine reflection of what's going wrong.
« Last Edit: December 28, 2010, 06:17:20 PM by Irish villain »

Offline black pearl of inchicore

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #125 on: December 28, 2010, 06:04:10 PM »
The greatest Villa team played for 90 mins against Bayern Munich on the 26th May 1982..They were a team of no-bodies to the outside world..They won respect and achieved their goal thru  hard work,understanding and love of the club.   This squad that represented the Villa today should be ashamed at such a faceless performance.It's only 11 v 11...nobody is fucn superhuman...and yet our Bastards wanted xtra days off from training.Tells me alot about the mental preparation that these players think is par for the course.Also are we going to endure a succession of useless so called managers....we need someone like Owen Coyle who is young, fresh and motivated, and not some relic from the by-gone era.

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #126 on: December 28, 2010, 06:04:30 PM »
Mon haters how sad some so called fans are.

As to sacking Houllier how will that solve anything, most of the top players don't look like they want to play for anyone not even Mighty Mon. There needs to be a major clear out whether those willing to put in a shift are good enough to keep us up time will tell.

But then as them in the know reckon no money will be spent perhaps we should face up to relegation for the foreseable future.

People also seem to forget City are the in form team and we rarely do well there anyway let alone when we have so many players returning from injury.


They lost their last home game to Everton. They didn't have to be good today, we made it so fucking easy for threm. We were just crap, there are no excuses to be made.

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #127 on: December 28, 2010, 06:05:15 PM »
It gives me no pleasure whatsoever to be the Prophet of Doom :(

But putting aside emotion & blind loyalty to the club that we all love, you've only got to have a cursory examination of the stats & facts to realise we've reached a crossroads and got to make a big decision.

As we all know, we really REALLY are in the brown stuff so what do we do about it??

Like most things in life, I don't believe there's a simple one reasons why we are wallowing in the brown stuff.....the reasons are many and tangled and there's more than Houllier to blame for this.

To be fair, it's not solely GH's fault though he has made life amazingly difficult for himself, the team and us suffering supporters.

Yes there have been crazy numbers of injuries, yes O'Neill's selfish last-minute walk-out was appallingly timed & yes Lerner has (in 2010) kept his purse strings tightly held (& who can really blame him in a way when you examine how many of MON's signings were left twiddling thumbs instead of playing football).....

The sad fact of the matter is that we are nosediving RAPIDO under GH's "leadership" right now.

The "nosediving under Houllier" thing is not a personal rant or opinion but a matter of fact.

It's now obvious to most people GH has LOST his players as well as the fans & unless there is a HUGE change of fortunes then we are indeed going to be hard-pressed to escape being relegated to the Championship along with Wolves & possibly one of a pack of others  that includes the Blues or maybe Wigan or West Ham or maybe the Baggies or maybe Blackburn....it's too early to say who will go down but certainly we are in that group of "favourites" for the drop.

I know it's a mega tight league and a couple of wins will see us leap-frog many clubs but I don't think there are many Villa fans right now who can foresee where the next goal is coming from, let alone victory.

There has to be a pro-active change by the Vlla hierarchy and we can't afford to get the next month or so wrong like we have done up til now this season.

Personally I think we will know more after the FA Cup and Sunderland games because lose those and the writing is written on the wall in huge letters.

I've not been one to advocate sacking managers recklessly or prematurely but we are living in bleak times....there is a depressing deja vu feel to all of this, a mood that we are almost being dragged along screaming by fate and so we have to arrest that and fast.

For those of us old enough to have seen and felt the pain of relegation, you will know what I mean.

Something has GOT TO GIVE.

Lerner either has to back Houllier & give him silly money in January to TRY & get new players which I think we all accept is extremely unlikely.

(& let's be honest what decent player worth his salt will want to come & struggle with us in a sticky relegation fight now as we are clearly a football club that is in the midst of a tornado of bad feeling and uncertainty?)

OR Randy has to sack GH fairly quickly and bring in someone more suitable if that's possible & like most decisions in football, whatever you do is always going to be a gamble.

In my opinion we have to motivate & better organise the players we already have and to somehow remind them what it's like to have desire, fight, passion and to WIN games.

The transfer window will not rescue us. A lot of you have already said so & I agree.

No option is easy for Villa now & if we are all honest none of us know what the right answer is actually because whatever we do is a lottery.

But it increasingly SEEMS to me that we may need a new manager.

The wrong answer for Villa is to do nothing whatsoever (like giving the players days off and hope things turn from dark, black clouds to all things bright & beautiful).

Massively worrying times.

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #128 on: December 28, 2010, 06:07:49 PM »
He won't sack Houllier until after the Chelsea game, it wouldn't make sense. We're gonna get tonked there so why kill of the honeymoon period before it's started? Let's hope we don't have McAllister as caretaker manager until it takes Randy 6 weeks to appoint Bryan Robson ;)

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #129 on: December 28, 2010, 06:09:39 PM »
Fans are entitled to boo and express whatever views they like. The fans are the club. Who keeps the club alive when its int he doldrums? Who pays good money to follow the team? Players are just working for the club, managers and coaches likewise whereas its an investment for Randy.



The fans are the ones who genuinely care about Aston Villa and if they want to boo they can. Moreover, their views are the most genuine reflection of what's going wrong.

Thank you well said

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #130 on: December 28, 2010, 06:10:46 PM »
My biggest worry is something Steve Claridge said on BBC after the game. He claimed that Lescott's goal did not definitely cross the line and said that not a single Villa player appealed against the decision. No fight and the players are accepting their fate - that is indefensible.

I haven't felt like this since There's Only One King Billy That's McNeill was in charge....
Southgate and Townsend said the same - and Southgate said they had none energy - so why should they.

Not a good word about Villa and Hou (and they started positive before the game)

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #131 on: December 28, 2010, 06:11:19 PM »
Thanks to a Citeh mate who likes to get away from the Eastlands car park promptly I'm now back home.  Apparently the missus has gone out to the Sales, so at least I can stomp around and slam doors without being told to grow up.  A mood not improved by hearing that West Ham are a goal up.  Three teams worse than us? Really?

There are loads of theories doing the rounds of why we find ourselves, but here's the truth.  We are shit. We are in trouble. We could well go down.  That's the reality and I don't think Houllier is going to turn this round. 

24 hours ago I was of the mind that giving him the transfer window and see what the remainder of the season brings was the way to go.  Now I think we should look at what it is: an appointment that has gone wrong.  Get rid.

I'm sure there'll be the refrain from the usual suspects, "Who you're going to bring in then?"  Well, f*ck knows, but that's why I earn a school teachers salary and the likes of Paul Faulkner earns whatever he does.  (Although increasingly I'm seeing the present regime in the same light as some of the bad days under HDE - they can talk a good talk when things are going well, but actually aren't really that clued up).  There must be someone out there who can organise a defence, and by hook or by crook get 20 points from the next 18 games.


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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #132 on: December 28, 2010, 06:15:33 PM »
Cue the OS giving us random player interviews telling us all how we need to 'firm up our defence', 'believe' and play without 'fear'.

Bored of the corporate bullshit. Just tell us you're going to pull your fucking socks up, stop the bollocks and get your fucking foot through the bastard ball.
Nothing will beat Cuellar a few days ago, saying we can finish 6th and even challenge for 4th.

Somebody must be tipping brake fluid in his Sangria.

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #133 on: December 28, 2010, 06:16:40 PM »
Are the players deliberately not giving a rat's arse because they don't want to play for GH and want him out?

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Re: Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #134 on: December 28, 2010, 06:17:15 PM »
Just got in, I don't think I can read too much of this thread this.
I don't know how many times I can think how can we sack GH before given a transfer window but the more it goes on there is something seriously wrong in our camp.
I have only read a few things since the game has finished and Toronto Villa sums it up,  professional footballers should try and play for fans, Aston Villa and their own respect. Everything which is going on behind the scenes should be left when they step out onto the playing field.

 


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