Manchester City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Rip Van We Go Again]

We can only blame MON up to a point.

Houllier and co. are responsible for the absolute travesty of a defence.

its more than the defence though isn't mate.
Its all over the pitch, but most worrying is the attitude of the players, from front to back.

You're right andy, but we seem to give every team a 2 goal start, very hard to fight back at this level when you do that.

[caster troy]

I don't get this argument that Houllier will sort things out in the transfer window. Clearly he isn't going to sign 11 players so it will still be mostly the same squad in February.

I seriously think if we make a positive change like getting in Jol we could go on a John Gregory style run and get into Europe. If we stick with GH we will probably survive by the skin of our teeth then lose Ashley Young in the summer.

What have we got to lose by changing manager now, we can't get any worse!

[barrysleftfoot]

  Bang on Sandman, the MON haters are conspicuous by there absence at the moment.Sometimes you have to be careful what you wish for, we were successful under MON, and punched above our weight probably, whether we could afford to keep going down his chosen route is another question.

  Under GH, he is trying to utilise what we have, but some of MONs players, have'nt got the ability to play the way GH wants, now we either change manager, and go back to the strengths of some of our players, or we slowly change clientelle.

[Moorski]

Time to go Houllier before it is too late, Randy hold up your hands you got it so wrong

[Risso]

Chris is right, NRC gave a special kind of display of uselessness today.  The scary thing is that that was pretty close to our strongest team today.

It takes a special kind of talent to do as badly as Houllier has since arriving.  He's fallen out with our best defender from last season, our top scorer from last season, and the player who should have been able to bring some creativity to the team from the middle of the park.  He's given a 38 year old who I reckon I could beat in a sprint a contract and game time, and generally has fucked things up from start to finish.

[eamonn]

We are on our knees at the moment. On a par with Doo-lally's last season.
These players don't look like they're giving nearly as much as they would under MON.

Our defence is so brittle, unorganised and nervous. We're conceding over two goals a game.
Offensively there is plenty of nice little sideways passing but our lack of penetration is killing us.

The worst thing is I clung onto the notion that all our injured players would make a difference once they returned. But they haven't. They're either out of form or Houllier seems to have fallen out with them. The youngsters excluded, most just seem to be going through the motions until they're sold or we change manager again.

[diand]

I was at the game and the only thing to be proud of was the fans. Utterly brilliant-vocal, passionate, committed to the cause, and stayed right to the very end. The team could learn a lot if they looked in that direction.

[Risso]

  Bang on Sandman, the MON haters are conspicuous by there absence at the moment.Sometimes you have to be careful what you wish for, we were successful under MON, and punched above our weight probably, whether we could afford to keep going down his chosen route is another question.

  Under GH, he is trying to utilise what we have, but some of MONs players, have'nt got the ability to play the way GH wants, now we either change manager, and go back to the strengths of some of our players, or we slowly change clientelle.

I didn't like O'Neill, but he was the one fell out with Lerner and walked out, so you can stick your "MON haters" nonsense up your illiterate backside.

[tarzansbrother]

Houllier is a clown and has to get sacked. Day off for the players and we have to pick ourselves up for the next game is just what he has said.

[eamonn]

Those pining for Jol, as our Dutch correspondants have been pointing out, he did disastrously with Ajax, considering their resources, before leaving this month.

[Nev]

They're all having the day orf tommorow!!!

[eamonn]

I was at the game and the only thing to be proud of was the fans. Utterly brilliant-vocal, passionate, committed to the cause, and stayed right to the very end. The team could learn a lot if they looked in that direction.

Weren't some of them booing Pires and telling Houllier to fuck right off?

[mrfuse]

Chris is right, NRC gave a special kind of display of uselessness today.  The scary thing is that that was pretty close to our strongest team today.

It takes a special kind of talent to do as badly as Houllier has since arriving.  He's fallen out with our best defender from last season, our top scorer from last season, and the player who should have been able to bring some creativity to the team from the middle of the park.  He's given a 38 year old who I reckon I could beat in a sprint a contract and game time, and generally has fucked things up from start to finish.

Totally agree, although Pires is hampered by the fact his y fronts are round his ankles or at least it looks that way

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Very worrying that it seems as if the players do not want to perform for him.

A sad state of affairs.

[mrfuse]

I was at the game and the only thing to be proud of was the fans. Utterly brilliant-vocal, passionate, committed to the cause, and stayed right to the very end. The team could learn a lot if they looked in that direction.

Weren't some of them booing Pires and telling Houllier to fuck right off?

like he said proud of the fans