0% Villa - Classless Celtic supporters

[Lee]

I've been talking to a mate about how we'd feel and would react if the league/club decided to add a symbol to the Villa shirt that seemed offensive and/or inappropriate to us.

Again, I don't want to underplay the stupidity of these Celtic supporters but there's no denying their historical political affiliation to the Irish repuplican movement, the general antipathy towards the British army within that community and their view that the poppy is as much a political symbol as anything else.

My friend posed the question, "What would you do if the government/league decided that the global appeal of the EPL presented an opportunity to improve the economic situation in the locality of football grounds and imposed a rule that the football shirts should occasionally carry the name of the town that a club came from. How would Villa and Everton fans react to having the word Birmingham orLiverpool on their shirt?"

When I argued that it was unthinkable, he said it is no more unthinkable than the idea of having the poppy emblem on the Celtic shirt would have been to those supporters a few years ago. I had to admit that it wasn't entirely impossible.

How would we react?

It wouldn't bother me. Sorry mate, I don't think  that the analogy stacks up in the same context as the issues on this thread.

[Namaste]

I've been talking to a mate about how we'd feel and would react if the league/club decided to add a symbol to the Villa shirt that seemed offensive and/or inappropriate to us.

Again, I don't want to underplay the stupidity of these Celtic supporters but there's no denying their historical political affiliation to the Irish repuplican movement, the general antipathy towards the British army within that community and their view that the poppy is as much a political symbol as anything else.

My friend posed the question, "What would you do if the government/league decided that the global appeal of the EPL presented an opportunity to improve the economic situation in the locality of football grounds and imposed a rule that the football shirts should occasionally carry the name of the town that a club came from. How would Villa and Everton fans react to having the word Birmingham orLiverpool on their shirt?"

When I argued that it was unthinkable, he said it is no more unthinkable than the idea of having the poppy emblem on the Celtic shirt would have been to those supporters a few years ago. I had to admit that it wasn't entirely impossible.

How would we react?

It wouldn't bother me. Sorry mate, I don't think  that the analogy stacks up in the same context as the issues on this thread.

I agree, it smacks of mere deflection from the issue at hand.

Celtic may have been formed by Irish people but they are not an Irish club at all. Glasgow, Scotland, U.K. There is no mention of Ireland at all in the location.

[Lucky Eddie]

Wouldn't bother me so long as we were sponsored by 'the city is ours'

[Small Rodent]

Celtic may have been formed by Irish people but they are not an Irish club at all. Glasgow, Scotland, U.K. There is no mention of Ireland at all in the location.

Yup. Might as well say AC Milan is an English cricket team.

[Villa'Zawg]

Wouldn't bother me so long as we were sponsored by 'the city is ours'

Nice compromise, I wish I'd thought of that. Maybe we could hook up with a radio station and use the slogan "Are you listening?"

[barrysleftfoot]

  brontebilly, i find it an opportunity to pay respects to fallen soldiers tbh.

  I find watching footage of WW1, in partic, difficult to watch sometimes, with a mixture of respect, anger, humility, sadness.Generally it is perceived as being British soldiers, but as damon said earlier 350'000 Irishmen volunteered for WW1,and from all backgrounds.Maybe you should wear a poppy for them.

[Mac]

Does anyone else suspect they threw references to Afghanistan and Iraq in there as comparative red herrings whilst what they were really on about was Ulster?

Without a shadow of a doubt.

Hmm. They're a BRITISH club and the symbol is in remembrance of BRITISH soldiers who gave their lives.  We may not agree with the cause but these are soldiers doing their job.

Speaking as a catholic of Irish descent I think they're a bunch of hate filled wankers.

Still, looking on the bright side, they can no longer claim any kind of moral higher ground.  I used to think that singing about the IRA was reprehensible, but simply in retaliation to the Hun's horrible hate filled chants.  However, they've sunk as low as  low as they can in my opinion and denigrated the memory of both Irish & British soldiers.

I could rant on but that's enough.

[Mazrim]

Well said Mac.

[lovejoy]

A lot of the "Irish" soldiers were protestant so wont "count" in the eyes of the Green Bridage.

I can understand why they have a bit of a siege mentality though so of the decisions against them have been ridiculous this season.

[Brend'Watkins]

Well said Mac indeed.

I think it's quite sad that somebody has gone to such great lengths to show their dissent or hate filled agenda or whatever.  let's face it, it has only been done to antagonise?

A massive own goal in my book from a bunch of morons.

[Mazrim]

My great grandfather was an Irish Catholic and a Colonel of engineeers in the British army.
On his behalf, and my own, those twats with the banners can suck my sack.

[Namaste]

These so-called football fans were singing pro-IRA songs last night at Tynecastle.

[Lambert and Payne]

These so-called football fans were singing pro-IRA songs last night at Tynecastle.

They do it every week, get away with it every week. They even got away with singing during the rememberance silence last season. Theres definately a bias from the SFA towards Celtic.

[lovejoy]

These so-called football fans were singing pro-IRA songs last night at Tynecastle.

Possibly the most ridiculous thing ever written on this forum.
They do it every week, get away with it every week. They even got away with singing during the rememberance silence last season. Theres definately a bias from the SFA towards Celtic.

Possibly the most ridiculous thing ever written on this forum.

[robbo1874]

What can they do though? They already fine both clubs. Deduct points? They'll still take the league.

Do you keep on banning fans? I'd go with that and report them to the local police to deal with. You wouldn't get away with shouting hatred in the streets on a day to day basis so why should a football match be any different?

the 'local police' would be mainly of a rangers persuasion if what people say up there is to be believed.
Lost a lot of respect for Celtic supporters over this. Why didn't anyone try to stop it? and if they did, why didn't the club's stewards back them up? My impression of most Celtic supporters I've met is that they are pretty sound and i'm sure the ones you meet day to day, wherever that is, are still and that won't change - but that is a disgrace what was allowed to happen there - and obviously a fair few of them were involved, or turned a blind eye. That will have lost them a lot of friends around the world I reckon, unless the club and fans do something to sort it out.