0% Villa - Classless Celtic supporters

[usav]

It appears rather than leave his politics at the door, chairman John Reid, the former Armed Forces Minister and Secretary of State for Northern Ireland and Defence, has forced his onto the first team jersey.

What a load of bollocks.  The bloke is a Roman Catholic, from Glasgow.   You can't get much more Celtic than that.

[barrysleftfoot]

  What a bunch of bigoted wankers they are.If this is an example of the kind of thing they want to bring to the Prem, then i hope that neither they or Rangers are ever allowed to join.


  These people live in Britain, generally, yet hate Britain...........can't work it out myself.

[The Man With A Stick]

This Green Brigade bunch are clearly just a bunch of pea-brained, attention-seeking twats.

[Stu]

They're just poisonous vermin, forever paranoid that the world and the media are out to get them.

[villa1]

As I said, thick.

[olaftab]

This is not a small  a dozen of so  by the looks of it this is properly organised and supported by the entire  crowd in that end.  I am shocked at the hatred  displayed.  May be  the few protesters at at passing cortege in Wootten Basset can be excused as mindless idiots   this can not.

[The Situation]

Idiots, pathetic. If they hate Britain so much then why do they live in Britain lol? I hope we never see those cretins in the Premier League.

[Villa'Zawg]

I've been talking to a mate about how we'd feel and would react if the league/club decided to add a symbol to the Villa shirt that seemed offensive and/or inappropriate to us.

Again, I don't want to underplay the stupidity of these Celtic supporters but there's no denying their historical political affiliation to the Irish repuplican movement, the general antipathy towards the British army within that community and their view that the poppy is as much a political symbol as anything else.

My friend posed the question, "What would you do if the government/league decided that the global appeal of the EPL presented an opportunity to improve the economic situation in the locality of football grounds and imposed a rule that the football shirts should occasionally carry the name of the town that a club came from. How would Villa and Everton fans react to having the word Birmingham orLiverpool on their shirt?"

When I argued that it was unthinkable, he said it is no more unthinkable than the idea of having the poppy emblem on the Celtic shirt would have been to those supporters a few years ago. I had to admit that it wasn't entirely impossible.

How would we react?

[pauliewalnuts]

Does anyone else suspect they threw references to Afghanistan and Iraq in there as comparative red herrings whilst what they were really on about was Ulster?

I am strongly against the two recent wars.myself but have nothing but respect and sympathy for the soldiers we are sending out there to die or be maimed.

Everyone knows Celtic's support's position re republicanism, but this is a British club playing in a British league, and what they did was small minded and bigoted. As well as a reminder as to why we should never allow those basket case clubs in our league. 

[Namaste]

I've been talking to a mate about how we'd feel and would react if the league/club decided to add a symbol to the Villa shirt that seemed offensive and/or inappropriate to us.

Again, I don't want to underplay the stupidity of these Celtic supporters but there's no denying their historical political affiliation to the Irish repuplican movement, the general antipathy towards the British army within that community and their view that the poppy is as much a political symbol as anything else.

My friend posed the question, "What would you do if the government/league decided that the global appeal of the EPL presented an opportunity to improve the economic situation in the locality of football grounds and imposed a rule that the football shirts should occasionally carry the name of the town that a club came from. How would Villa and Everton fans react to having the word Birmingham orLiverpool on their shirt?"

When I argued that it was unthinkable, he said it is no more unthinkable than the idea of having the poppy emblem on the Celtic shirt would have been to those supporters a few years ago. I had to admit that it wasn't entirely impossible.

How would we react?

I think your friend is simply trying to deflect the blame from Celtic; as the topic of this thread states they are "classless".

If Celtic fans do not like being Scottish or a part of the UK then I think it's about time they moved to South Ireland. The very assumption that they think themselves more important than the thousands who have died serving the UK is an absolute disgrace.

This is a perfect example of why FIFA should never allow those two bigoted teams from Glasgow anywhere near the PL.

[damon loves JT]

By some accounts 350,000 Irishmen volunteered to fight in World War 1. They fought in some of the bloodiest and most pointless battles in that conflict, and the poppy is a token of remembrance for them too.

As a society we are big and mature enough to tolerate a bit of dissent. But this lot really should have a think about what they're saying.

[brontebilly]

For British people what does the poppy represent?

I think the message has been hijacked in recent years but Id be interested to hear what you guys think?

[Villa'Zawg]

I've been talking to a mate about how we'd feel and would react if the league/club decided to add a symbol to the Villa shirt that seemed offensive and/or inappropriate to us.

Again, I don't want to underplay the stupidity of these Celtic supporters but there's no denying their historical political affiliation to the Irish repuplican movement, the general antipathy towards the British army within that community and their view that the poppy is as much a political symbol as anything else.

My friend posed the question, "What would you do if the government/league decided that the global appeal of the EPL presented an opportunity to improve the economic situation in the locality of football grounds and imposed a rule that the football shirts should occasionally carry the name of the town that a club came from. How would Villa and Everton fans react to having the word Birmingham orLiverpool on their shirt?"

When I argued that it was unthinkable, he said it is no more unthinkable than the idea of having the poppy emblem on the Celtic shirt would have been to those supporters a few years ago. I had to admit that it wasn't entirely impossible.

How would we react?

I think your friend is simply trying to deflect the blame from Celtic; as the topic of this thread states they are "classless".

If Celtic fans do not like being Scottish or a part of the UK then I think it's about time they moved to South Ireland. The very assumption that they think themselves more important than the thousands who have died serving the UK is an absolute disgrace.

This is a perfect example of why FIFA should never allow those two bigoted teams from Glasgow anywhere near the PL.

No, he wasn't trying to deflect attention from them at all, he was truly appalled by the demonstration.

He has studied and researched the WWI "footballers regiment" and said that from the pre-war Celtic team some fought with the British Army and others joined the Irish insurrection. He also said that at least one Villa player saw active service against the 1916 insurrection in Dublin.

There's no point ignoring the fact that Celtic was formed directly and solely from the Irish community in Glasgow and many of them consider the club to be first and foremost an Irish club and the demonstration is a reflection of the NI conflict.

All that aside, I just thought it was an interesting question regarding what we and Everton would do if the club wanted to put the word Birmingham or Liverpool on the shirt.

[KevinGage]

The poppy has long had different connotations in Ireland. As mentioned earlier, in Britain it's simply an acknowledgement of fallen troops and the money raised a valuable resource for them or their families.

In Ireland (particularly the North east corner) it came to be another symbol used by one side to mark them out as being different to the other. We belong to this tribe, you that and never the twain shall meet.

So whilst understandable -to a degree- that some Celtic fans still have an issue with it, when you have an Irish President (born in Belfast, no less) wearing it at Remembrance Day condolences you'd have to say they're out of step on this one.

[Lee]

Does anyone else suspect they threw references to Afghanistan and Iraq in there as comparative red herrings whilst what they were really on about was Ulster?

Yes mate I did a few posts up