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Online dave.woodhall

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #75 on: September 20, 2010, 07:06:02 PM »

Do you not think some of the things that he is being called/accused of may be a touch ureasonable considering everyone is putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 56 and that if these defamatory posts had people's real names on then MON's lawyers may be interested


First, if anything libellous was said on here 'real names' or otherwise would make no difference.

Second, nothing libelllous has been said. 

Third, for the benefit of any of his legal advisors who may be reading, Martin O'Neill dropped us in it.

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #76 on: September 20, 2010, 07:35:43 PM »
I can't belive that after a month we still have no idea why he fucked off.

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #77 on: September 20, 2010, 08:13:40 PM »
If there was one thing that really pissed me of about MON was his post match comments of how we played some "terrific, scintillating football", when in truth it was generally utter gash. Maybe he believed it or maybe he knew that for the vast majority of people, they'd only get to see 5 minutes on MOTD, so it was a no risk comment or maybe he knew no better.

It's not just him though. Gabby and KMac have both reckoned we have played well in recent matches.

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #78 on: September 20, 2010, 08:19:55 PM »
I can't belive that after a month we still have no idea why he fucked off.

I couldn't give a fuck now.

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #79 on: September 20, 2010, 08:22:17 PM »
We've also finished in the top six in precisely half of the seasons since the Premier League started.

Sixth under MON three times was decent. Not amazing, but decent.

6th in nine seasons over eighteen (50%) sounds better then 6th in six seasons out of fifteen (40%). Although for the money spent we should be in those type of places, sometimes it is forgotten in the stats thrown around that without the last three seasons, they were worse on average.

I do agree on the decent comment and not amazing but that was more with the money spent then it should be expected because of pre-MON stats.

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #80 on: September 20, 2010, 08:25:43 PM »
I can't belive that after a month we still have no idea why he fucked off.

I couldn't give a fuck now.

I would only really give a fuck if it had a future knock on under Geds reign. (Possible massive reduction in funding, major players being sold with no money left to fund the managers purchases.)

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #81 on: September 20, 2010, 09:07:22 PM »

Yes, on the surface he's dropped us in it but to pretend that we hadn't made real progress and that last season wasn't our best in years is just fucking bollocks.

Sorry to intrude on your special dream again, and not wishing to rewrite history, could you please justify the "on the surface " comment please.
Feel free to call me silly names if you must.

It's quite simple. We do not know the exact circumstances of his departure. So, on the surface he's dropped us in it but we cannot know for certain until we are given the full story.

He dropped us in it. We know that for a fact - the timing alone is proof.

Precisely.

No "on the surface of it", there surely can not be doubt in anyone's mind that MON dropped us in it going when he did, regardless of whether they support his reasoning.

Can there?

If you found out his reasoning and supported it, you'd probably hold someone else responsible for dropping us in it.

Nobody else did drop us in it.

Perhaps if I had the information you appear to have I would feel the same way you do but I don't, so I don't.

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #82 on: September 20, 2010, 09:10:03 PM »
The information I have is available to all. Martin O'Neill and his staff walked out. Nobody else. Therefore Martin O'Neill and his staff dropped us in it. Nobody else.

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #83 on: September 20, 2010, 09:11:56 PM »
But we don't know if he was put in a position where he thought he had no option.

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #84 on: September 20, 2010, 09:13:01 PM »
I can't belive that after a month we still have no idea why he fucked off.

I couldn't give a fuck now.

No, neither do i.

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #85 on: September 20, 2010, 09:16:53 PM »
But we don't know if he was put in a position where he thought he had no option.

Of course he had an option. What was the worst thing that could happen to him?

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #86 on: September 20, 2010, 09:26:28 PM »
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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #87 on: September 20, 2010, 09:34:43 PM »
But we don't know if he was put in a position where he thought he had no option.

Of course he had an option. What was the worst thing that could happen to him?

Well, the scenario that knits everything together into one explainable situation is that O'Neill discovered that Paul Faulkner is one of the Babylonian Brotherhood. O'Neill discovers that Faulkner has been putting lizard shapeshifters onto the payroll (hence explaining why ours is bigger than Spurs), and confronts him when Faulkner tries to disguise this by laying the blame at O'Neill's feet though the thin excuse of employing duff footballers at vastly inflated wages.

As yet only O'Neill, Chris and Villadawg out of all us sheeple have cottoned on to this, and members of the Brotherhood are conducting a smear campaign again the three of them, making them out to be stone cold bonkers.

So far, it's working.

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #88 on: September 20, 2010, 09:40:41 PM »
But we don't know if he was put in a position where he thought he had no option.

Of course he had an option. What was the worst thing that could happen to him?

Surelyt he asked himself the same question. Why would he walk when he did? What was the catalyst for him to do what he did knowing the repercussions for the club and potentially for him? He thought his relationship with Randy and the board had fractured so much that the working relationship could go no further. That seems fair enough. The timing is strange though so what made the relationship break down to the point one party has to walk?

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Re: Bottler to manage grief merchants?
« Reply #89 on: September 20, 2010, 09:46:04 PM »
I'm inclined to believe the Daily Star article is a journalist's attempt at filling space. As has been discussed in other threads, or maybe it was the latest issues of H&V, I'm a firm believer that this was the biggest gig MON ever had.

 


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