Bottler to manage grief merchants?

[Ger Regan]

It's quite simple. We do not know the exact circumstances of his departure. So, on the surface he's dropped us in it but we cannot know for certain until we are given the full story.

I'd be agreeing with you chris if it wasn't for the fact that he has form in dropping clubs in it.

[freakypete]

an irish shit for scouse shit

[Chris Smith]

I’m not re-writing history, so clamber back into your pram. We have as many second placed finishes as 16th finishes, tot them all up since we were promoted and you’ll like as not get a figure of 5, 6 or 7. There is also the perception that it seems to me like we’ve been 6th for the past hundred years.

The manager did well, reversed the years of decline we’d suffered under O’Leary, spent a fortune and built a platform to deliver. But he never did and we still have gone over a decade without winning a trophy. That’s how history will judge him. I look forward to a few weeks time when you’re in as much love with Ged as you currently still are with O’Neill.

"In love" - that's the sort of childish drivel we've had to put up with from nash and Overall in recent times, I thought you had a bit more to you.

I thought he was doing a good job, do you want me to pretend I didn't just to suit the prevailing mood?

As for Houllier, I'm optimistic that he can continue the good work and am particulary pleased with the staff he has put together which, on paper, has an exciting feel to it.

You seem to be having a bad day for the shattering of illusions. First evil billionaire tyrant and tycoon Woodhall fails to meet your expectations, and now me. Would it be too much to say that Father Christmas doesn’t exist?

I know you thought he was doing a good job. So did I, but as I pointed out there was a caveat to that with the expectation that we’d go on to achieve something tangible and something out of the ordinary. He didn’t want that opportunity and we all have our opinions as to why not. So when it comes down to it, I’ll not hold him in any real higher regard than Gregory, who equally spent a fortune and left us trophyless. The manner of O’Neill’s exit seals his reputation with many others and me.

I’m glad you share my excitement about the new regime. Cynicism doesn’t suit you and if you think I was being puerile and maybe I was, then it’s from your volte face on the board which seems to me to come from an unnecessary loyalty towards O’Neill. He doesn’t deserve it.

It isn't unnecessary loyalty it's just being consistent. It's not a personal thing to the man but to the job he was doing.

I think Houliier inherits the best set of players any incoming Villa manager has had in the PL era. If the board back him then he has every chance to succeed.

[Concrete John]

an irish shit for scouse shit

And here was me thinking we were lacking insightful and thought provoking debate on here!

[olaftab]

Terrific news! They are welcomed to him. He played  kids in Moscow ...I am still fuming!

[dave.woodhall]

Yes, on the surface he's dropped us in it but to pretend that we hadn't made real progress and that last season wasn't our best in years is just fucking bollocks.

Sorry to intrude on your special dream again, and not wishing to rewrite history, could you please justify the "on the surface " comment please.
Feel free to call me silly names if you must.

It's quite simple. We do not know the exact circumstances of his departure. So, on the surface he's dropped us in it but we cannot know for certain until we are given the full story.

He dropped us in it. We know that for a fact - the timing alone is proof.

[Namaste]

O'Neill is damaged goods and no top four aspirant will surely employ one who has a bad habit of 'walking out' on clubs. His ego drives him not success for the football club that employs him nor indeed its fans!

[pauliewalnuts]

Our average finish in PL history is 8th.  yes, i know football wasn't invented in 1992, but it did dramatically change then so is as good a point in time as any to judge from.

We've also finished in the top six in precisely half of the seasons since the Premier League started.

Sixth under MON three times was decent. Not amazing, but decent.

[pauliewalnuts]

Yes, on the surface he's dropped us in it but to pretend that we hadn't made real progress and that last season wasn't our best in years is just fucking bollocks.

Sorry to intrude on your special dream again, and not wishing to rewrite history, could you please justify the "on the surface " comment please.
Feel free to call me silly names if you must.

It's quite simple. We do not know the exact circumstances of his departure. So, on the surface he's dropped us in it but we cannot know for certain until we are given the full story.

He dropped us in it. We know that for a fact - the timing alone is proof.

Precisely.

No "on the surface of it", there surely can not be doubt in anyone's mind that MON dropped us in it going when he did, regardless of whether they support his reasoning.

Can there?

[PaulTheVillan]

MON dropped us in it, and for that... He is a ******.

[KevinGage]

Would love him to get the Redscouse job, but would much prefer it if he got the England one.

[spangley1812]

I wonder how many of you would make these posts, call him name, libel him if you had to leave your real names,contact details. If you feel so mad about him drop him a line care of Villa Park im sure they have a forwarding address for him   

[PaulTheVillan]

Good idea. Will do.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Would love him to get the Redscouse job, but would much prefer it if he got the England one.

Such would be his success, for the rest of his life he'd never have to buy himself another pint.. in Ireland. You've bloody evil, KG.

[Ads]

I wonder how many of you would make these posts, call him name, libel him if you had to leave your real names,contact details. If you feel so mad about him drop him a line care of Villa Park im sure they have a forwarding address for him   

I can't say I'm overly concerned about such empty threats.