The legacy of Martin O'Neill

[TonyD]

Please don't forget me.

OK then, it was just Paulthevillain and Risso. Christ. Some people really just enjoy arguing don't they.

And me, I wanted him out - badly.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

I can only think of about 8 people on here who wanted Bicycle face out.
From my view, he'd had 4 seasons, one more than I think any manager should have to show that they were taking a club forward.
He was asked to sort out the wage bill and a combination of that and the club's refusal to sign the woefully inadequate McGready and injury ridden Keane (for £18m) caused him to have a hissy fit and leave us in the lurch 5 days before the season.

He'll not be mourned by me, he's nowhere near as good as thinks he is.
Redknapp was right 'I'm a better coach than O'Neill.'

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Also, you can't read too much into the polls, people wilfully put controversial votes on them, have a look at the next Villa manager one, I think 12 people voted for O'Leary.

[Somniloquism]

I can only think of about 8 people on here who wanted Bicycle face out.
From my view, he'd had 4 seasons, one more than I think any manager should have to show that they were taking a club forward.
He was asked to sort out the wage bill and a combination of that and the club's refusal to sign the woefully inadequate McGready and injury ridden Keane (for £18m) caused him to have a hissy fit and leave us in the lurch 5 days before the season.

He'll not be mourned by me, he's nowhere near as good as thinks he is.
Redknapp was right 'I'm a better coach than O'Neill.'

I agree with McGeady but the injury ridden Keane bit? I have never noticed him to miss loads of matches through injury compared to an Owen for example.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

I can only think of about 8 people on here who wanted Bicycle face out.
From my view, he'd had 4 seasons, one more than I think any manager should have to show that they were taking a club forward.
He was asked to sort out the wage bill and a combination of that and the club's refusal to sign the woefully inadequate McGready and injury ridden Keane (for £18m) caused him to have a hissy fit and leave us in the lurch 5 days before the season.

He'll not be mourned by me, he's nowhere near as good as thinks he is.
Redknapp was right 'I'm a better coach than O'Neill.'

I agree with McGeady but the injury ridden Keane bit? I have never noticed him to miss loads of matches through injury compared to an Owen for example.

He's had his injuries, but apart from that, £9m for a 30 year old Spurs reject with NO resale value?
Would have been a poor move.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

The legacy of MON is fans willing to accept any old shit provided we win.

I think you'll find that 99% of football fans will put winning ahead of pretty football everytime. Clearly you and Tony Mowbray are in the other 1%.

Once again Chris you deliberately miss the point. If your definition of decent football is restricted to Mowbray, you really have little understanding of modern football. You really must have hated the West Ham game.

Exactly. The idea that somehow winning football and attractive football need to be different is exactly the attitude that has held England back for generations. From Hungary in '53 to the Germans in '10, English football has suffered from exactly the same deficiencies. Any notion that somehow possession is too risky a strategy to be a good one for winning, or that it's preferable to put in endless crosses in the vain hope that something will happen rather than crafting a move with a definite purpose, or that defenders should always hack it as far away as possible from their goal because passing is such a dangerous luxury - these notions were never right and now they're just laughable.

Except that isn't what Mark said. He suggested that Villa fans were somehow unique for putting a winning team ahead of a pretty team. Which is total bolloocks.

We all like to see great football but we prefer to see winning football.

What's total 'bolloocks' Chris, is your comment. Where did I mention us being unique? There was a time, not so long ago, when Villa fans would want to see both entertaining and winning football. Maybe the likes of the Rags, Stoke, Leicester and Bolton are willing to accept a win at any cost but I'd never have put Villa in that group.

Your first post was "The legacy of MON is fans willing to accept any old shit provided we win". Which is what all fans are like, with the "as long as win" being the important bit. The clubs you mention don't win all that often so isn't really relevant.

I'd put up with it if we won every week, MON hasn't made me like that being a football fan has.

I think you'll find a lot, if not all football fans have higher expectations of their teams than you Chris. Judging by the response on here over the last month, maybe my initial comment was incorrect, the vast majority are now glad MON has gone and it wasn't because we weren't winning enough games, maybe fans wanted an essential ingredient that was missing, a bit of entertainment, a sign that we were progressing and developing as a team. Monty hit the nail on the head and hopefully with decent coaches we'll start to win games with more style.

I just hope you won't be too disappointed should we achieve it. After all, you were there when we were shit.

[Ads]

 His legacy is a platform of good players that I believe have even more to give. Though the wage bill maybe high I still believe there is money to spend and room for manoeuvre. We’re a top 6 club who have begun to start challenging again. It is clear O’Neill was not the manager to take us further forward.

[Concrete John]

Please don't forget me.

OK then, it was just Paulthevillain and Risso. Christ. Some people really just enjoy arguing don't they.

And me, I wanted him out - badly.

Was are the 'We wanted MON out' gang nominating sfx412 for membership?

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Please don't forget me.

OK then, it was just Paulthevillain and Risso. Christ. Some people really just enjoy arguing don't they.

And me, I wanted him out - badly.

Was are the 'We wanted MON out' gang nominating sfx412 for membership?

He was the Raving loony independent candidate, nothing to do with us!

[Chris Smith]

Please don't forget me.

OK then, it was just Paulthevillain and Risso. Christ. Some people really just enjoy arguing don't they.

And me, I wanted him out - badly.

Was are the 'We wanted MON out' gang nominating sfx412 for membership?

He was the Raving loony independent candidate, nothing to do with us!

Get lost, he's your Ayatollah, your spiritual leader. Where Malcom treads today, you all follow.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Too extreme for me, he once PM'd me a list of posters he hated with their home addresses and details of how to make explosives out of fertiliser, naturally your name was top of the list Chris.

I'd gladly put your windows in, but nothing more.

[pauliewalnuts]

Too extreme for me, he once PM'd me a list of posters he hated with their home addresses and details of how to make explosives out of fertiliser, naturally your name was top of the list Chris.

I'd gladly put your windows in, but nothing more.

That's a euphemism Chris, Fletch is a filthy bugger.

You'll probably have him threatening to "kick your back door in and paint it white on the way out" sooner or later.

[pauliewalnuts]

Those two post counts simply suggests you are both sad and lonely. And that you need each other.


Grabs coat and pegs it.

Your opinion counts for shit, t_v. You don't even go to the games.





that's a joke, obv.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Too extreme for me, he once PM'd me a list of posters he hated with their home addresses and details of how to make explosives out of fertiliser, naturally your name was top of the list Chris.

I'd gladly put your windows in, but nothing more.

That's a euphemism Chris, Fletch is a filthy bugger.

You'll probably have him threatening to "kick your back door in and paint it white on the way out" sooner or later.

Ohh it does sound odd.
I'll change it to 'Give Chris a thorough going over.'

[JUAN PABLO]

The legacy of MON  was he thought he could  turn every overpaid turd into an overpaid diamond , unfortunately  he could not..