Post-match thread - Newcastle v Aston Villa

[hawkeye]

everything that could go wrong went wrong, Carew misses a pen then just about every player has a nightmare, this would sugest that a manager is needed quickly but there should be some serious questions asked about the attitude of many players.

[sfx412]

Without question Lerner is entirely responsible for the sale of Milner, because since the club is managerless  it's clearly his decision and his decision alone.

I can't see how you stop a deal that was going through since before May. Its harder than stopping a turncoat quitting on you just before the season starts. It was a done deal what RL did do was the best deal for the club financially and it could also involve the one player transferred in this summer.
So I'm confident to say I disagree completely with your without question statement.

[Ger Regan]

everything that could go wrong went wrong, Carew misses a pen then just about every player has a nightmare, this would sugest that a manager is needed quickly but there should be some serious questions asked about the attitude of many players.

It was the listlessness that really shocked me today. Whatever could be said for, say, the 7-1 last season, you couldn't accuse them of a lack of effort. Today, though, you could.

[bob]

Can anyone else who says something along the lines of "if Doug had done that he would would have been..." be banned please?

[Monty]

Without question Lerner is entirely responsible for the sale of Milner, because since the club is managerless  it's clearly his decision and his decision alone.

I can't see how you stop a deal that was going through since before May. Its harder than stopping a turncoat quitting on you just before the season starts. It was a done deal what RL did do was the best deal for the club financially and it could also involve the one player transferred in this summer.
So I'm confident to say I disagree completely with your without question statement.

Agree entirely. The deal was going through, with Ireland and everything, before MON resigned. The only option was to keep negotiating along those terms.

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

everything that could go wrong went wrong, Carew misses a pen then just about every player has a nightmare, this would sugest that a manager is needed quickly but there should be some serious questions asked about the attitude of many players.

The right manager needs to be appointed however long it takes, yes of course today was painful but we shouldn't go gung ho and give anyone the job. Lerner needs to hold his nerve and get this right.

[Dazvillain]

No fight, battle or cohesion today. Player looked cluless and fed up. Will be needing a stronger team than last game v Rapid this Thursday to get past them...i thought that it would be similar to the one  we sent out today needed !
No chance to rest anyone in next 2 games even if they are both within 3 days

[Rudy Can't Fail]

everything that could go wrong went wrong, Carew misses a pen then just about every player has a nightmare, this would sugest that a manager is needed quickly but there should be some serious questions asked about the attitude of many players.

Remember last week after the West Ham game, a few of the players said how MacDonald wanted them to keep the ball more and "hurt" teams. Today we got "hurt". Having watched the game twice now, yes everything went wrong for us but credit to Newcastle, they played as a team and fought for every ball. We weren't half as bad as some are making out. The one thing that really sticks out is we were playing without a striker.

[Des Little]

Apologies if I missed it, but does anyone know how long Gabby is out?

[mallo]

I've only just calmed down enough to post something semi-literate, so bear that in mid when I say :
That is the most listless pile of shit I've ever seen from the Villa and I include Doncaster in that - and that I live in Newcastle makes it so much worse against a SHIT Newcastle team. They are worse that when we beat them 1-0 when they went down. We need a new manager immediately and signings along with that - this wishy washy everythings ok in the garden stance is crap of the highest order. If Lerner bollocks this next appointment up then he can forget the 4 times a season I travel to Brum and all the north east fixtures - O Neill had to go and there's every chance to turn it round but my god my bloods boiling - I'm normally very laid back about these things but this has just sent me into mental mode. Maybe sleeping on it will put it into perspective. Fucking 6 shipped to fucking Newcastle - Chelsea to Wigan ok, Newcastle to Villa? Meh.

I realise I'm not going to affect anything financially but the goodwill will disappear. Broken promises.

[hawkeye]

everything that could go wrong went wrong, Carew misses a pen then just about every player has a nightmare, this would sugest that a manager is needed quickly but there should be some serious questions asked about the attitude of many players.

It was the listlessness that really shocked me today. Whatever could be said for, say, the 7-1 last season, you couldn't accuse them of a lack of effort. Today, though, you could.

i only saw highlights and watched on a poor stream as i am in the US, i was at chelsea though and it was more clulessness than effort, either way it hurts

[hawkeye]

everything that could go wrong went wrong, Carew misses a pen then just about every player has a nightmare, this would sugest that a manager is needed quickly but there should be some serious questions asked about the attitude of many players.

The right manager needs to be appointed however long it takes, yes of course today was painful but we shouldn't go gung ho and give anyone the job. Lerner needs to hold his nerve and get this right.

lets face it MON dropped us in it and whilst i was hopeing that we could take our time appointing his replacement, a 6-0 thrashing sugests that we need to do something pretty soon, i am scared that we may have to act in haste and repent at leisure

[Lizz]

Stating the bleeding obvious, after today's shambles, what Randy does next apropos the manager situation will be the most important decision he's had to make.

[john e]

wonder if MON is having a little chuckle

[Shrek]

We miss cueller soo bad