Post-match thread - Newcastle v Aston Villa

[Monty]

That Carroll is a terrible player, so for us to make him look class and hand him a hat trick really makes me angry.

Thank you, Riss, been waiting for someone to mention this. We should be upset with two things today: the performance of the referee (which, although not causing the result or anything daft like that, was in-keeping with the spinelessness he showed in the second half of his game last week) and our own incredibly poor performance. Newcastle are a rubbish, rubbish team who should struggle to stay up. We should do so much better than this.

[KevinGage]

I guess it was predictable that there would be threads started ridiculing individual players and all the rest of it, but team today just lacked balance.

I mentioned in the pre match thread that I didn't want to see Ireland start alongside Petrov, he's not that kind of player. Both suffered as a result and our midfield was overrun.

[MoetVillan]

Risso, I have more concerns that we made Colocini look like a good player by not threatening him, with two big strikers in Carew and Hesk.... ok one big striker and Heskey.  I dont however think Carroll in front of his fans is a terrible player.  He was well up for it, and would have given Terry just as much of a working over.  As to what now.... I still feel like the rug has been pulled, and im pretty angry about it.  Sixth with virtually the same squad as last year suddenly feels miles away

[The Situation]

I left the pub when we went 4-0 down... to lose 6-0 to a promoted team is beyond a disgrace, it's a personal insult to the fans - I feel demoralised.

I know we got beat pretty bad but I can't help but think how different it could of possibly been if Carew, er, didn't try and hit an airplane from the penalty spot. If we'd gone 1-0 up we'd have settled down and they would have started to panic a little.

Despite that, even at half-time I was left thinking ''how our we 3-0 down... we actually haven't played bad, we've actaully played better than them". It just seems everything went right for Newcastle and everything that could possibly go wrong for us, did go wrong.

Macdonald got his team wrong I'm afraid. He should of played a 4-2-3-1 with Petrov and Reo-Coker holding in midfield, Young and Downing on the wings and Ireland just playing off Carew.

[Monty]

Bang on, Situation.

[Phil from the upper holte]

So, what do we do now?

Appoint a decent manager - quickly - and support him in the transfer market.

That's just what I said on another thread it has to happen now, I feel were back to square one all over again

[TaxDodger]

I'm off to hack my head off with a large knife.

[PhilGibson]

The general always says that Randy likes his actions to speak louder than his words. Now is the time for action.

[Risso]

Out thought, out fought and outplayed by a Championship side.

That second half was as bad as anything we've seen in 20 years, absolutely pathetic all over the pitch. Kevin picked the wrong team and, after the first 30 minutes, they played as though they knew it. I hope we've got some defenders coming back to fitness soon otherwise I can see it happening again.

Fucking useless.

I'd say that was spot on to be honest.  As dismal an away performance as I can recall, and against a newly promoted team as well.  Woeful.  MacDonald's admission of naivety doesn't impress me either.  He picked the wrong team, then made the sort of shit substitutions that managers make when they know the game's up.  Heskey on the right wing?  FFS.

[taylorsworkrate]

A certain bald fella must be wondering what the hell he's done.

In fairness to Ireland, he hasn't played any preseason, so he was always unlkely to be on top form today.

[fredm]

As soon as I saw the line up I was very worried.  I said after Thursday night that Albrighton should be rested and Reo-Coker put in midfield with Ireland alongside Ashley behind Carew.

I think a lot of managers and full backs will have sussed Albrighton now and he really needs to think about his game if he is to progress - and needs a good coach to assist him.

However, as Waddle said we dominated the game early on and to be fair Newscastle couldn't get anywhere near us.  Until that big useless lump missed his fourth sitter in two games and that completely turned the game.  If that had gone in I think we could easily have nipped in with another one and it would have been game over.  They were on the back foot, we were moving the ball about and pulling them apart at the back.  However once they got in front, we started dropping off them (as usual!) giving them space in midfield and no one was wanting the ball.  That meant we resorted to the hoof again and of course the lamp post just conceded possession and it came straight back.

I think RL has to make a decision fairly quickly - if it is going to be KM tell him and let him try and bring in/ship out who he wants.  If not bring the new man in asap so he can do the same.

[richard moore]

At least it gives me another team to absolutely loathe this season alongside the bindippers, the Mercenaries and the classless chavs. No, hang on, I already hate the team with the bestest supporters in the world. When my wife asked me what I thought of them at the airport today, I described them as 'F*****g w*****s' to which she took offence at me saying that in front of the girls, asking me whether I couldn't just say 'I'm not too keen on people from Newcastle'

[Klaus Katt]

It was pretty much what Mac Donald said in his preview. Newcastle wouldn't have won 6-1 if Carew had scored. Maybe the players didn't get told off in half-time like before, maybe Ireland should have been in Young's position from the start. It felt worse after we lost there 3-1 in 2007.

[PhilGibson]

The crazy thing about supporting Villa is that we can be on top of the world one day, beating West Ham very convincingly, signing Stephen Ireland and drawing away to Vienna with a very much second string. Then what happens just as you are riding high thinking all is right in the villa world, you go and get your pants pulled down by the newly promoted geordies, why do we kid ourselves when more often than not the reality bites you when you least expect it.

Bloody typical Villa!

[tarzansbrother]

One things for sure, no knee jerk reaction. Unfortunately taking a bit of time will mean no new signings. Looked to me today as although our caretaker manager made some tactical mistakes the senior players dont want Kevin Mac. One thing Bob Bradley will bring is discipline to these over paid prima donnas.