Post-match thread - Newcastle v Aston Villa

[BannedUserIAT]

Seeing Alan Shearer collecting winnings from someone as he'd obviously had Andy Carroll down for a hat-trick just made me wanna puke my eyeballs out.

[pauliewalnuts]

I think that today has made it obvious that Petrov, although a good deep midfielder, is not a defensive midfielder. With Milner, this problem could be overcome. With Ireland, we need another player in there.

Classic 4-3-3 I think, with NRC in there unless we get Flamini or someone. I think I've been arguing for that system for three years now, so I don't really expect much to change - but it has to.

I would agree with you.

Flamini would be an excellent signing, too. I do wonder how much more mileage we're going to get out of Petrov, though. Not very much if we are going to play him in a central two very often.

We need to sort the managerial appointment out, and we need to get into the transfer market in the remaining week and a bit and start to sort out what we need.

[pauliewalnuts]

Seeing Alan Shearer collecting winnings from someone as he'd obviously had Andy Carroll down for a hat-trick just made me wanna puke my eyeballs out.

Turn the telly off.

I'm not watching anything today which might even hint at events of earlier on.

[Big Dick Edwards]

That debacle puts last weeks performance against West Ham into perspective.

Losing 7-0 to Chelsea last season was humiliating but to lose 6-0 to a very ordinary at best Newcastle is disgraceful.

MacDonald has just lost my vote to get the managers job.

[Monty]

It's such a shame we don't have Delph at the moment as he could sort out that situation in the midfield pretty well. For now, NRC has to play in a 3 with Petrov and Ireland, I don't mind admitting that I was wrong about him.

[MoetVillan]

Reo Coker wasnt in the mood when he came on, for someone supposedly there to add bite, he got caught on the ball much too often.  Petrov remains an enigma, one that I dont get either, in all his time at VP.  A DeJong type player that can boss midfield I think is the player we need.  I thought Downing crossed well, Young was good until he got frustrated, Ireland obviously needs more team time.  Felt Clark was outbattled by their new talismanic number 9, and Dunne seemed poor on decision making.  I still think Cuellar is a better left back for the team than Young.  We didnt need another player making runs, we needed to mop up at the back and put themselves about a bit.  We played the better football for half an hour.  That said when our heads were down, we never looked up for the fight in the second half.  That to me was a big concern, we have to turn the corner if play goes against us.  We played shit, got dicked, yet only three points off the top.  Come on lads, you know you are much better than this

[taylorsworkrate]

I think Kev's interview whilst admitting fault, was still a bit of a cop out.  He was naive, but more in the sense that you can not play 5 attacking midfielders in the same side.  Also why couldn't he just say it was an unacceptable performance?  He'd get a lot more respect for it.

[john e]

Disgraceful.

It shows how shit you are when Alan Smith is dictating the game.

I thought Barton had a great game for them.

i said Barton would be a good player for Villa, even though he has some personal bagage to sort out.

i was told by a mod, that it was the most insane thing he had read on this site

On the basis of one game against a team putting in what was their worst performance in a long time, you reckon that you're vindicated in suggesting that a mediocre, mental, jailbird nutter would be a good player for us?

coarse not,
i was just giving an oppinion and him as a footballer,
i realise it was not going to be overly popular, but i dont think it was as insane as he made out, thats all

[PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt]

Friedal - At fault for at least two goals. Get Shay Given in now
Young - Poor at times positionally I thought
Warnock - Abysmal passing of the ball, often caught out ball watching
Dunne - Reminded me of the fat kid that can hoof the ball for an Under 11 team, you just know that every now and then he'll slice one - and he did. At fault for at least two goals
Clark - Struggled against the ariel prowess of Carroll
Albrighton - Needs to do the simple thing every now and then and not run at the opposition every time.
Petrov - Shit, can't run and runs out of steam after 60 minutes STILL!
Ireland - Clearly not match fit, shouldn't have started
Downing - The new Nigel Callaghan. - He has balls the size of a hamster and my 4 year old can tackle harder than him. Gutless.
Carew - I wanted Heskey on at half time, thats how bad he was. He isn't bothered.
Young - Did look interested, but he'd do better getting on with the game instead of showing his pathetic, petulant, spoilt brat behaviour.

Reo- Coker - done well against Rabid Vienna, should have played today.
Beye - Why?
Heskey - £50-60,000 quid a week he supposedly 'earns'. The most expensive clown in history.

So much for the players wanting Kevin Mac to get the job....sure didn't look like it to me. 

[Risso]

I don't even know where to start to be honest.  From such an effervescent, sparkling performance last week, to this absolutely abject, gutless surrender today.  That Carroll is a terrible player, so for us to make him look class and hand him a hat trick really makes me angry.

So, what do we do now?

[pauliewalnuts]

So, what do we do now?

Appoint a decent manager - quickly - and support him in the transfer market.

[phantom limb]

So, what do we do now?

Appoint a decent manager - quickly - and support him in the transfer market.

Yep, this.

[sfx412]

We need to sort the managerial appointment out, and we need to get into the transfer market in the remaining week and a bit and start to sort out what we need.

Easier said than done though, especially for a new manager who doesn't know the squad. That's what makes O'Neills timing so shit.
Sensibly any new man will manage what he has in the hope its good enough to limit the damage until Jan, surely.
Unless of course he knows enough about the Villa squad and the European market already

[Chris Smith]

Out thought, out fought and outplayed by a Championship side.

That second half was as bad as anything we've seen in 20 years, absolutely pathetic all over the pitch. Kevin picked the wrong team and, after the first 30 minutes, they played as though they knew it. I hope we've got some defenders coming back to fitness soon otherwise I can see it happening again.

Fucking useless.

Slight over reaction there, Greg.

Which bits do you disagree with?

"That second half was as bad as anything we've seen in 20 years".
Wolves away last season, Hull away the season before where we actually won...

Don't be ridiculous.

It's some weird version of reality where a 1-1 draw at Wolves is worse than a 6-0 at Newcastle.

We were shocking against Wolves, far worse than today, despite the score.

No, we weren't. We at least defended correctly in that game.

[richard moore]

Utterly speechless

Just flown back from my hols in Spain, I get into Southampton airport and have five texts waiting for me. Two of them I know will be the team sheets, and I think 'oh, goody, the other three probably have us 2-1 up or similar'. I won't bother to go on. Suffice to say that the effects of two weeks on the Costa Blanca have been completely wiped out by coming home to steady drizzle and THAT scoreline. And to think I was looking forward to MOTD tonight. I won't go anywhere near watching this now....