Post-match thread - Newcastle v Aston Villa

[TonyD]

We have nothing upfront!

We despretely missed Ash on the left today, Downing was shite.

Kevins tactics were truly awfull today, bringing heskey on when you need a goal is a certain way to loose the fans!

When you need 3 goals is a joke.  Why not the Fonz.   Let's not overeact.  We are in transit.  Expect a bumpy ride for while.  Remember Rome wasnt built in a day.

[john e]

Disgraceful.

It shows how shit you are when Alan Smith is dictating the game.

I thought Barton had a great game for them.

i said Barton would be a good player for Villa, even though he has some personal bagage to sort out.

i was told by a mod, that it was the most insane thing he had read on this site

[Monty]

I think it just sunk in. I was angry, then I was numb, now I'm just sad.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Out thought, out fought and outplayed by a Championship side.

That second half was as bad as anything we've seen in 20 years, absolutely pathetic all over the pitch. Kevin picked the wrong team and, after the first 30 minutes, they played as though they knew it. I hope we've got some defenders coming back to fitness soon otherwise I can see it happening again.

Fucking useless.

Slight over reaction there, Greg.

Which bits do you disagree with?

"That second half was as bad as anything we've seen in 20 years".
Wolves away last season, Hull away the season before where we actually won...

Don't be ridiculous.

It's some weird version of reality where a 1-1 draw at Wolves is worse than a 6-0 at Newcastle.

We were shocking against Wolves, far worse than today, despite the score.

[Mister E]

My son was there and confirms that it's the worst he's seen from a Villa team in his 13 years of watching.

Dunne - AWOL; Friedel - I think he's gone over the hill; LY and Warnock - got caught out too often; Downing - not good enough; Carew - lost the will to play.

There is some surgery to be done I think.

[pauliewalnuts]

We have nothing upfront!

We despretely missed Ash on the left today, Downing was shite.

Kevins tactics were truly awfull today, bringing heskey on when you need a goal is a certain way to loose the fans!

When you need 3 goals is a joke.  Why not the Fonz.   Let's not overeact.  We are in transit.  Expect a bumpy ride for while.  Remember Rome wasnt built in a day.

There were three really shocking things from KM today.

First was starting with Petrov and Ireland in the middle and not realising that that central pairing would get walked over at will.

Second was not changing anything at half time.

Third was bringing on Heskey when 3-0 down. Regardless of Heskey's attributes and whatever he does or does not add to the side, I don't think anyone would even start to argue that he adds goals, so what that was about I do not know.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

lets not dwell on the negatives,
 lets take the positives out of the performance and move on !

What were they??? We didn't lose 10?

The only positive we can take from today is it's bloody obvious where we need to strengthen.

[pauliewalnuts]

Disgraceful.

It shows how shit you are when Alan Smith is dictating the game.

I thought Barton had a great game for them.

i said Barton would be a good player for Villa, even though he has some personal bagage to sort out.

i was told by a mod, that it was the most insane thing he had read on this site

On the basis of one game against a team putting in what was their worst performance in a long time, you reckon that you're vindicated in suggesting that a mediocre, mental, jailbird nutter would be a good player for us?

[Toronto Villa]

Out thought, out fought and outplayed by a Championship side.

That second half was as bad as anything we've seen in 20 years, absolutely pathetic all over the pitch. Kevin picked the wrong team and, after the first 30 minutes, they played as though they knew it. I hope we've got some defenders coming back to fitness soon otherwise I can see it happening again.

Fucking useless.

Slight over reaction there, Greg.

Which bits do you disagree with?

"That second half was as bad as anything we've seen in 20 years".
Wolves away last season, Hull away the season before where we actually won...

Don't be ridiculous.

It's some weird version of reality where a 1-1 draw at Wolves is worse than a 6-0 at Newcastle.

We were shocking against Wolves, far worse than today, despite the score.

Mark, honestly. The Wolves game doesn't come remotely close to this. I cannot believe that you could think that.

[Goldie.7]

Disgraceful.

It shows how shit you are when Alan Smith is dictating the game.

Haha............ So true

[taylorsworkrate]

Disgraceful.

It shows how shit you are when Alan Smith is dictating the game.

I thought Barton had a great game for them.

i said Barton would be a good player for Villa, even though he has some personal bagage to sort out.

i was told by a mod, that it was the most insane thing he had read on this site

Barton did have a good game, which is hard to swallow as he's a despicable human being. 
Should have been sent off first half though.

[Gaztonniller]

What can one say positive except BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!

[BannedUserIAT]

There were three really shocking things from KM today.

First was starting with Petrov and Ireland in the middle and not realising that that central pairing would get walked over at will.

Second was not changing anything at half time.

Third was bringing on Heskey when 3-0 down. Regardless of Heskey's attributes and whatever he does or does not add to the side, I don't think anyone would even start to argue that he adds goals, so what that was about I do not know.

Interestingly, on one of the Newcastle forums, they asked Villa fans various questions in regard to this match.
Everyone of them said that Albrighton was the man to watch out for and I think all but one said that Heskey was easily our worst player.

I bet the Newcastle fans who read that were thinking 'WTF' when the substitutions were being made.

[TonyD]

I think we've all got carried away with all the talk about everyone sayin they glad Mon gone and were now attacking rather than being told not to lose bollocks.

Lookin at that today were no different at all

Sadly I have to agree.   What happened to the passing?  Why do you bring on EH when you need goals.

On the bright side things will change. KM can learn or a new manager will have new ideas.

UTV.

[Monty]

I think that today has made it obvious that Petrov, although a good deep midfielder, is not a defensive midfielder. With Milner, this problem could be overcome. With Ireland, we need another player in there.

Classic 4-3-3 I think, with NRC in there unless we get Flamini or someone. I think I've been arguing for that system for three years now, so I don't really expect much to change - but it has to.