Post-match thread - Newcastle v Aston Villa

[Somniloquism]

A bit of an overeaction on here at the moment considering if Carew had scored the penalty it could've been us winning comfortably. From one kick of the ball, it didn't go our way. Yes, it turned out to be extremely embarrassing, especially the way they played at 3-0, but it could've quite easily been different.

Kev Mac should still be given the opportunity when the likes of fucking Bob Bradley is being mentioned.

I think the downside was it was obvious we were getting overrun in midfield at 3-0 down but the only sub he made to address that was done so late in the game it made no difference.

[PaulWinch again]

I'm not sure you can overreact to that performance post 30 mins. It is the worst I have ever seen from Villa.

[Villa'Zawg]

We are a football club.

Owner/CEO/Manager/Coaches/players/Tea-lady/Supporters.

WE lost 6-0 at Newcastle, no-one else, WE.

[pauliewalnuts]

Kev Mac should still be given the opportunity when the likes of fucking Bob Bradley is being mentioned.

You've got a point there.

I said last week that calling for KM to get the job after one result was daft, as the next result could go the other way. I didn't expect it to go quite so far the other way, though.

I do, however, think that appointing Bob Bradley would be insanity and make KM look by far the better option. In fact, appointing Bradley would make me really question the leadership

[citizenDJ]

A bit of an overeaction on here at the moment considering if Carew had scored the penalty it could've been us winning comfortably. From one kick of the ball, it didn't go our way. Yes, it turned out to be extremely embarrassing, especially the way they played at 3-0, but it could've quite easily been different.

Kev Mac should still be given the opportunity when the likes of fucking Bob Bradley is being mentioned.

I doubt 'even' Bob Bradley would have played Petrov and Ireland as a central two!

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A bit of an overeaction on here at the moment considering if Carew had scored the penalty it could've been us winning comfortably. From one kick of the ball, it didn't go our way. Yes, it turned out to be extremely embarrassing, especially the way they played at 3-0, but it could've quite easily been different.

Unfortunately disagree.

We were beaten to nearly every 50/50 ball even before the Penalty. We were not done by skill and quality, we were beaten by heart, guts and determination from the first whistle.

That is what is so unforgivable.

[Chris Smith]

A bit of an overeaction on here at the moment considering if Carew had scored the penalty it could've been us winning comfortably. From one kick of the ball, it didn't go our way. Yes, it turned out to be extremely embarrassing, especially the way they played at 3-0, but it could've quite easily been different.

Kev Mac should still be given the opportunity when the likes of fucking Bob Bradley is being mentioned.

I don't think it is possible to overreact to that. We made a shit team look like world beaters. It's only 1 game and we can bounce back but the performance was as bad as it can possibly be.

[hilts_coolerking]

Bewildered, I have to say.

We all marked it down as a very attacking lineup before kick off but I don't think anyone expected us to get carved up like that.  Maybe we should have.  Certainly Kevin MacDonald should have.

After the first goal went in, Newcastle grew in confidence and got the crowd right behind them just as I feared they might.  We couldn't get the ball back and were under so much pressure in defence that we just crumbled.

I expected a brighter performance in the second half but it got even worse.  I can only remember us being in their half on two or three occasions.

They've not all become bad players inside a week but 9 goals shipped in 2 matches is a worry. 

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Out thought, out fought and outplayed by a Championship side.

That second half was as bad as anything we've seen in 20 years, absolutely pathetic all over the pitch. Kevin picked the wrong team and, after the first 30 minutes, they played as though they knew it. I hope we've got some defenders coming back to fitness soon otherwise I can see it happening again.

Fucking useless.

Slight over reaction there, Greg.

[PhilGibson]

Why were we so bad? Why the lack of fight? why the lack of ideas? I am struggling to understand the polar opposites in performance between last week and this. Football is baffling some times, how can we lose 6-0 to Newcastle?

[Somniloquism]

Someone mentioned we seemed to lack team spirit. Do you reckon it was resent from the rest of the team on Milner leaving for a shit load more money and Ireland coming in on a the highest wages straight-away.

Irelands interview in todays papers on players being paid correctly has bit him in the ass.

[Monty]

Oddly, after 5 I felt a bit better. It feels more like a fluke somehow (I hope).

[NorthYvillan]

For the first 20-30 minutes, we dominated, then they attacked and we didn't have a defence, especially in midfield.
We lacked our big defenders, and had no defensive midfield players. We looked set up for a home game, and when the crunch came, they were not man enough to take it on. That's down to the manager, I doubt a Mon team would have capitulated so easily.
I think we have to cope with these sort of results until the players know who will be the permanent manager, and whilst the reserve team coach learns his PL trade.
Desperate stuff defensively at times, really was.

Is it just me or does anyone else think that Friedal is past his best and no longer up for the job? You need a keeper who inspires confidence in his defence and I don't think he has done that for months.

Is Shay Given beyond our budget?

[Chris Smith]

Got that just lost 6-0 feeling but what makes it worse is those thinking its KM fault and not MON!!

He bought all that shite!!

He should hang his little receding curly bonce in Fucking shame this afternoon! Oh yes thats right he doesn't give a shit!!

Jesus, that's the most embarrasing thing I've ever read in my life.  Fortuntaely I think Kevin;s got a bit more about him and wouldn't try to hide behind such stupid excuses, he picked the wrong side pure and simple.

[pauliewalnuts]

A bit of an overeaction on here at the moment considering if Carew had scored the penalty it could've been us winning comfortably. From one kick of the ball, it didn't go our way. Yes, it turned out to be extremely embarrassing, especially the way they played at 3-0, but it could've quite easily been different.

Kev Mac should still be given the opportunity when the likes of fucking Bob Bradley is being mentioned.

I'd suggest that things like "if Carew had converted" and "it could easily have been different" and what not are of limited value when the result has gone so comprehensively against us. Maybe had it finished 3-1 or something, yes, but 6-0?

The club is now in a pretty tricky position. Manager bailing on us on the eve of the season, looking around for a new manager, in need of doing some business (in both directions) in the transfer market, a truly, truly dreadful performance and result at the start of the season, a number of players out injured ... we need some strong leadership, and it has to come from the top.

A good, proven manager in within the next couple of days, please.