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Author Topic: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???  (Read 62687 times)

Offline cheltenhamlion

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #225 on: August 20, 2010, 12:48:53 PM »
You aren't half talking a load of old twaddle on this thread Malcolm.

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #226 on: August 20, 2010, 12:56:40 PM »
Malcom keep taking the tablets

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #227 on: August 20, 2010, 01:00:42 PM »
Malcom keep taking the tablets
Or possibly don't.

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #228 on: August 20, 2010, 01:03:05 PM »
Out of interest, does last night nake K-Mac less or more likely to be our new manager?  For me a draw is a draw and there were both good and bad points about the performance, so I'd say it's an 'as you were' position as to whether he's the right man or not!

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #229 on: August 20, 2010, 01:06:10 PM »
I don't think we should be judging who to appoint on the basis of two matches, to be fair. We've done well in them, but we should be looking mainly at what KM did before last week.

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #230 on: August 20, 2010, 01:09:25 PM »
I don't think we should be judging who to appoint on the basis of two matches, to be fair. We've done well in them, but we should be looking mainly at what KM did before last week.

Well, the way I see it is he should be judged on the same criteria as any other candidate - who'd do the best job.  His advantage is that by being caretaker manager he builds up a more convincing case with each good result we get.

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #231 on: August 20, 2010, 01:09:44 PM »
I felt before last night he wasn't the right man for the job, and I still feel that.

Our hand may be forced if our other targets aren't available though.

I'd give him 4-5 games minimum.  If we're still getting results and playing anywhere near as convincingly as we did v West Ham he'll have earned the right to take the thing on until Christmas -and possibly beyond.

Offline Lucky Eddie

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #232 on: August 20, 2010, 01:10:47 PM »
Even if we win the next four games, which isn't that unlikely, I think we'd be crazy to appoint KM solely on a good start. Reserve and fringe (frozen) players were always going to be out to prove a point following the managers departure.

I don't have any reason not to give him the job; I just hope that if he is given the job its based on a lot more than convenience and results in the first month of the season. ::)

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #233 on: August 20, 2010, 01:22:50 PM »
Even if we win the next four games, which isn't that unlikely, I think we'd be crazy to appoint KM solely on a good start. Reserve and fringe (frozen) players were always going to be out to prove a point following the managers departure.

I don't have any reason not to give him the job; I just hope that if he is given the job its based on a lot more than convenience and results in the first month of the season. ::)

Results will have a bearing though, I think that's obvious.

For all the positive noises coming out of Bodymoor Heath, if we'd got turned over by West Ham and had lost in Vienna by 2+ goals I don't think there would be a clamour to have him appointed.

We could still have him holding the fort well into the start of the season if results and performances are satisfactory enough. But making a long term decision/ commitment on that basis should be shied away from.

Even if a Klinsmann or similar took as long as Oct/Nov to be appointed, I wouldn't be unduly concerned. If they're the right appointment that's ultimately all that matters. I'd hope whoever it is would be willing to work with Kevin Mac and Sid though, and doesn't see a wealthy owner and decent sized club as an open invite to completely rebuild the club, spend shitloads and start again from scratch.

We need some fresh impetuous and ideas, that much should be clear. But we already have the nucleus of a good side. One or two signings in key areas should be enough to see us compete up around 6th-4th again.

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #234 on: August 20, 2010, 01:23:15 PM »
I don't think we should be judging who to appoint on the basis of two matches, to be fair. We've done well in them, but we should be looking mainly at what KM did before last week.

Well, the way I see it is he should be judged on the same criteria as any other candidate - who'd do the best job.  His advantage is that by being caretaker manager he builds up a more convincing case with each good result we get.

Similarly, however, one bad result and it looks a lot less convincing.

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #235 on: August 20, 2010, 01:44:06 PM »
I don't think we should be judging who to appoint on the basis of two matches, to be fair. We've done well in them, but we should be looking mainly at what KM did before last week.

Well, the way I see it is he should be judged on the same criteria as any other candidate - who'd do the best job.  His advantage is that by being caretaker manager he builds up a more convincing case with each good result we get.

Similarly, however, one bad result and it looks a lot less convincing.

Very true, which is why I was wondering how people's opinions may change after an 'average' result like last night.  Does he HAVE to keep winning to be in the frame and one bad one and he's not eve on the radar, as he wasn't when MON first quit? 

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #236 on: August 20, 2010, 01:48:49 PM »
I don't think we should be judging who to appoint on the basis of two matches, to be fair. We've done well in them, but we should be looking mainly at what KM did before last week.

Well, the way I see it is he should be judged on the same criteria as any other candidate - who'd do the best job.  His advantage is that by being caretaker manager he builds up a more convincing case with each good result we get.

Similarly, however, one bad result and it looks a lot less convincing.

Very true, which is why I was wondering how people's opinions may change after an 'average' result like last night.  Does he HAVE to keep winning to be in the frame and one bad one and he's not eve on the radar, as he wasn't when MON first quit? 

The f word.

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #237 on: August 20, 2010, 01:49:42 PM »
I find KM difficult to read. Being in front of the TV cameras is such a big part of the job, he would have to find a way to do it.

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #238 on: August 20, 2010, 01:53:16 PM »
I find KM difficult to read. Being in front of the TV cameras is such a big part of the job, he would have to find a way to do it.

Maybe he could start giving his post match interviews through the gift of dance?  That'd confuse 'em!

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Re: Kevin MacDonald the next Manager???
« Reply #239 on: August 20, 2010, 02:13:08 PM »
I'd have been happy with a 1-1 away draw in Europe whoever was in charge or playing.

The fact that it was such an inexperienced side with a couple of the team playing for the first time makes it impressive. If we get a win on Sunday and then progress to the next round after a good home win, we can't argue.

MacDonald knows them all and has their respect, it's a great position to be in.

 


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