2-2 Arteta equaliser. Just need 1 more now to win my more than 4.5 goal bet!
Quote from: glasses on November 22, 2010, 08:37:06 PMQuote from: TheSandman on November 22, 2010, 01:34:50 AMThis perceived racism of Stoke's fans is based on the fact they elected a BNP councillor isn't it? Whilst I wouldn't be as quick to accuse you of being a homophobe as others there is certainly more basis for that than deriding every person who supports, plays for and generally is associated with Stoke City Football Club as racists based on such flimsy evidence.Especially as Stoke count such notorious white supremacists Ricardo Fuller, Kenwyne Jones and Salif Diao amongst their number.Besides, all the people who voted BNP might have been Vale fans for all you know. I work with a muslim chap who does stewarding for Albion, and he had an eventful afternoon being racially abused by several EDL Stoke fans. You can't tar all of their fans with the same brush, but what was clear was that there was a number of them, not just one or two. Football club supporters in reflecting the views of the population shocker? there are racists in every day life and you can sure as hell hear them at Football grounds hey we've even got a few of our own as I've heard at several grounds over the last few years. I've written to the club twice now giving the seat numbers of those involved. You'll be pleased to know though the two asian stewards in front of us at Blackburn yesterday got no racist abuse at all in fact one of them fell asleep in the first half and was rudely awakened by pedersens goal. the look on his face was a picture.
Quote from: TheSandman on November 22, 2010, 01:34:50 AMThis perceived racism of Stoke's fans is based on the fact they elected a BNP councillor isn't it? Whilst I wouldn't be as quick to accuse you of being a homophobe as others there is certainly more basis for that than deriding every person who supports, plays for and generally is associated with Stoke City Football Club as racists based on such flimsy evidence.Especially as Stoke count such notorious white supremacists Ricardo Fuller, Kenwyne Jones and Salif Diao amongst their number.Besides, all the people who voted BNP might have been Vale fans for all you know. I work with a muslim chap who does stewarding for Albion, and he had an eventful afternoon being racially abused by several EDL Stoke fans. You can't tar all of their fans with the same brush, but what was clear was that there was a number of them, not just one or two.
This perceived racism of Stoke's fans is based on the fact they elected a BNP councillor isn't it? Whilst I wouldn't be as quick to accuse you of being a homophobe as others there is certainly more basis for that than deriding every person who supports, plays for and generally is associated with Stoke City Football Club as racists based on such flimsy evidence.Especially as Stoke count such notorious white supremacists Ricardo Fuller, Kenwyne Jones and Salif Diao amongst their number.Besides, all the people who voted BNP might have been Vale fans for all you know.
Quote from: aftab235 on November 22, 2010, 09:45:13 PM2-2 Arteta equaliser. Just need 1 more now to win my more than 4.5 goal bet!I bet you love Jermaine Beckford then.
Excellent numbers from the Everton fans for a game that far away on a monday night on tv. We're similar size clubs, we get bigger home crowds than them yet they can take 2000+ to Sunderland on a monday night and we took about 600 there last season for a midweek game not on tv. Their noise is crap but our numbers should be able to match theirs.
Quote from: Blackcountry Villa on November 22, 2010, 10:03:05 PMExcellent numbers from the Everton fans for a game that far away on a monday night on tv. We're similar size clubs, we get bigger home crowds than them yet they can take 2000+ to Sunderland on a monday night and we took about 600 there last season for a midweek game not on tv. Their noise is crap but our numbers should be able to match theirs.Liverpool is a lot closer (about 2 hours drive) to Sunderland than Birmingham
Quote from: AV82EC on November 22, 2010, 08:58:38 PMQuote from: glasses on November 22, 2010, 08:37:06 PMQuote from: TheSandman on November 22, 2010, 01:34:50 AMThis perceived racism of Stoke's fans is based on the fact they elected a BNP councillor isn't it? Whilst I wouldn't be as quick to accuse you of being a homophobe as others there is certainly more basis for that than deriding every person who supports, plays for and generally is associated with Stoke City Football Club as racists based on such flimsy evidence.Especially as Stoke count such notorious white supremacists Ricardo Fuller, Kenwyne Jones and Salif Diao amongst their number.Besides, all the people who voted BNP might have been Vale fans for all you know. I work with a muslim chap who does stewarding for Albion, and he had an eventful afternoon being racially abused by several EDL Stoke fans. You can't tar all of their fans with the same brush, but what was clear was that there was a number of them, not just one or two. Football club supporters in reflecting the views of the population shocker? there are racists in every day life and you can sure as hell hear them at Football grounds hey we've even got a few of our own as I've heard at several grounds over the last few years. I've written to the club twice now giving the seat numbers of those involved. You'll be pleased to know though the two asian stewards in front of us at Blackburn yesterday got no racist abuse at all in fact one of them fell asleep in the first half and was rudely awakened by pedersens goal. the look on his face was a picture. I didn't say it was a shocker, or that I was shocked by it, or that we don't have people who share the views. I was merely stating that it may not just be due to the electing of a BNP Councillor, that people percieve Stoke, the club in question have some racist fans. I suppose if it happens in all walks of life its fair game then is it?